00:09 < bridge> <alw5> ready to get flamed
00:10 < bridge> <kebscs> its alright
00:10 < bridge> <kebscs> feel like it fits under settings file more but other than that is ok
00:11 < bridge> <alw5> i can move it
00:12 < bridge> <alw5> yea true
00:12 < bridge> <alw5> i thought it would be below it
00:12 < bridge> <alw5> but then i realised it wasnt
00:12 < bridge> <alw5> and then i forgot
00:13 < bridge> <alw5> i thought it would because its below the code
00:13 < bridge> <alw5> of the settings file but ig not
03:28 < bridge> <louis> shouldnt it be in the ddnet tab?
05:26 < bridge> <thrava> I found the kick voting is seems to be separated between teams, but I can't find where decided it to be different from normal voting, whether it's server-side or client-side logic?
05:28 < bridge> <thrava> Or how can I implement custom team voting
05:30 < bridge> <thrava> I implemented team tuning but I need team voting feature to let it actually completed
07:01 < bridge> <zhn> wait we had buildwars all the time and no one knew it?
07:02 < bridge> <zhn> btw added tdtw feet animations on top of ddnet
07:02 < bridge> <zhn> looks more dynamic and pretty to me xd
07:16 < bridge> <Ewan> as soon as you use this language people are no longer inclined to devote their free time out of kindness
07:42 < bridge> <TsPiggy> <a:catJAM:1292008215172747345>
07:57 < bridge> <ryozuki> @mpft what prompt u use?
07:59 < bridge> <ryozuki> tell me the fisher plugins
07:59 < bridge> <ryozuki> or ill fish you 🔫
08:05 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329708114613768284/image.png?ex=678b52af&is=678a012f&hm=c07447ce21bd8731407bc926b96d8b719843df2dada635925248305448ca78d0&
08:05 < bridge> <ryozuki> nushell looks cool
08:05 < bridge> <ryozuki> maybe ill use it
08:05 < bridge> <ryozuki> :poggers2:
08:05 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329708269979172949/image.png?ex=678b52d4&is=678a0154&hm=98e41ac552d1f2ab98b31b0821c84680bcf030e80af9902e923e27d8d65e2459&
08:06 < bridge> <Ewan> yeah it’s pretty intriguing
08:07 < bridge> <Ewan> this isn’t the one I use but it has 10x the stars so maybe u should be the guinea pig https://github.com/IlanCosman/tide
08:07 < bridge> <louis> for big screens only ig 😅
08:07 < bridge> <Ewan> fullscreen tui is real
08:08 < bridge> <Ewan> this is what i use and it’s just the normal one but async <https://github.com/acomagu/fish-async-prompt>
08:09 < bridge> <ryozuki> looks outdated
08:11 < bridge> <Ewan> well it says the latest version at the top of the readme so i guess you can tell exactly how old it is
08:11 < bridge> <Ewan> if you mean design wise, i mean yeah, it’s a custom prompt
08:11 < bridge> <Ewan> looks all extra and 2020 dev twitter
08:11 < bridge> <ryozuki> no like 10 months ago
08:11 < bridge> <ryozuki> why all fish repos are not updated
08:11 < bridge> <Ewan> fish is old
08:11 < bridge> <Ewan> not that old
08:11 < bridge> <Ewan> but the rust port should bring new life
08:12 < bridge> <Ewan> fairly niche too
08:12 < bridge> <Ewan> i think it’s third behind zsh
08:12 < bridge> <Ewan> in popularity
08:12 < bridge> <teero777> What are the benefits of fish compared to zsh?
08:12 < bridge> <Ewan> it was just more intuitive
08:12 < bridge> <ryozuki> one big downside is its not posix
08:12 < bridge> <Ewan> highlighting and history with no setup was what got me into it
08:12 < bridge> <Ewan> and then i realized it’s crazy powerful for real scripting applications
08:13 < bridge> <Ewan> no it isn’t POSIX compatible but personally i think of it like a different type of script
08:13 < bridge> <ryozuki> u should check nushell
08:13 < bridge> <Ewan> e.g. https://fishshell.com/docs/current/cmds/string.html
08:14 < bridge> <Ewan> lots of things like this
08:14 < bridge> <zhn> why is it downside btw
08:14 < bridge> <Ewan> mechanisms that are based in intuition and not stupid unix history
08:14 < bridge> <ryozuki> ```rust
08:14 < bridge> <ryozuki> def "str append" [tail: string]: [string -> string, list<string> -> list<string>] {
08:14 < bridge> <ryozuki>     let input = $in
08:14 < bridge> <ryozuki>     match ($input | describe | str replace --regex '<.*' '') {
08:14 < bridge> <ryozuki>         "string" => { $input ++ $tail },
08:14 < bridge> <ryozuki>         "list" => { $input | each {|el| $el ++ $tail} },
08:14 < bridge> <ryozuki>         _ => $input
08:14 < bridge> <ryozuki>     }
08:14 < bridge> <ryozuki> }
08:14 < bridge> <ryozuki> ```
08:14 < bridge> <milkeeycat> morning One True Brace style enjoyers and others
08:14 < bridge> <ryozuki> nushell script
08:14 < bridge> <zhn> posix compatible?
08:14 < bridge> <Ewan> :troll:
08:14 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329710540129435680/image.png?ex=678b54f1&is=678a0371&hm=ba3178dc387f99f08d97c0640cc1cc92c3943c6b35dd8f18d24b3308908d2672&
08:14 < bridge> <ryozuki> no
08:15 < bridge> <zhn> :poggers2:
08:15 < bridge> <Ewan> i saw the page
08:15 < bridge> <zhn> truly a downside :troll:
08:15 < bridge> <Ewan> i like the idea
08:15 < bridge> <ryozuki> well u cant set it up as login shell but its ok
08:15 < bridge> <zhn> xd
08:15 < bridge> <Ewan> but anything more niche than fish is too much of a time sink
08:15 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329710766231654492/image.png?ex=678b5527&is=678a03a7&hm=c09e9cd993dc3b6a51e804281ce52a85092ea67cfc05255fd50465679a70a219&
08:15 < bridge> <ryozuki> this is pog
08:15 < bridge> <ryozuki> i think its the future
08:16 < bridge> <ryozuki> its just we arent ready for it yet
08:16 < bridge> <Ewan> exactly
08:16 < bridge> <Ewan> tell me when we are 😂
08:16 < bridge> <ryozuki> :justatest:
08:16 < bridge> <Ewan> it is good looking for sure
08:16 < bridge> <Ewan> probably beats the hell out of awk head sed shit
08:17 < bridge> <teero777> Typing 40 extra characters for it to be more pretty :(((
08:17 < bridge> <zhn> til psycho.god tried rust in tw back in 2016
08:17 < bridge> <ryozuki> pog
08:17 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329711275332079649/image.png?ex=678b55a0&is=678a0420&hm=75ba716841c98b862b8be201934a236aa90b3a2a3b82b3849ac49975ad294c7d&
08:18 < bridge> <ryozuki> ppl who merge prs most
08:18 < bridge> <zhn> now tell me who reverts the most :troll:
08:19 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329711788631134299/image.png?ex=678b561b&is=678a049b&hm=d3e6232ae78cbebd851ba161c5b46815514aa98e6cbed52f4dee9529339f04f4&
08:19 < bridge> <ryozuki> ok im done
08:23 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://lwn.net/Articles/1003780/
08:23 < bridge> <ryozuki> > Code written in Rust will land in the kernel at an increasing rate over the course of the year as a result of the increased availability of abstractions and greater familiarity with the language in the kernel community. The Rust code that has been merged so far is mostly infrastructure and proofs of concept; in 2025, we'll see Rust code that end users will run — but they may never notice. The number of unstable language features needed by the k
08:24 < bridge> <teero777> I will not be able to compile my own kernel ever again :twintri:
08:25 < bridge> <teero777> My cpu isn't strong enough for rust
08:25 < bridge> <zhn> no one will notice because linux kernel builds that long anyway
08:42 < bridge> <akhmad_sila.> how to download ddnet because i don't know
08:43 < bridge> <Ewan> do you have steam?
08:43 < bridge> <akhmad_sila.> There is not:(
08:43 < bridge> <Ewan> it’s on there but if not you can find it here https://ddnet.org/downloads/
08:43 < bridge> <Ewan> you probably want Windows 64bit
08:44 < bridge> <Ewan> right click the file, extract all, go into that folder then run DDNet.exe
08:45 < bridge> <akhmad_sila.> Thank you very much
08:47 < bridge> <akhmad_sila.> Bro, is there a version for a phone? My brother wants one too.
08:48 < bridge> <meloƞ> Just download the android one by going to that link on the phone
08:48 < bridge> <meloƞ> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329719083423502336/Screenshot_20250117-084838.png?ex=678b5ce6&is=678a0b66&hm=41d236cf0ea85adac07b0bf3667d69aa9e436535ae30521ee1fc1eca9440592a&
08:49 < bridge> <akhmad_sila.> Okay
08:49 < bridge> <akhmad_sila.> Thank you
08:50 < bridge> <Ewan> have fun
08:50 < bridge> <Ewan> don’t forget to go outside once in a while
08:51 < bridge> <Ewan> this game might do that to you
09:44 < bridge> <meloƞ> :monkalaugh:
09:44 < bridge> <meloƞ> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329733111100997642/image.png?ex=678b69f6&is=678a1876&hm=a990ff6d1ab30edc900280360322b5f4a8d23648dc0f559f54d7c885a869f933&
10:33 < bridge> <chairn> https://github.com/git-lfs/git-lfs/security/advisories/GHSA-q6r2-x2cc-vrp7
10:41 < bridge> <Sans> I'm trying to learn C++ by messing with the ddnet client, and so far I've managed to copy the general settings tab and rename it, but I'm not sure how to change the background position
10:41 < bridge> <Sans> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329747392387485716/image.png?ex=678b7743&is=678a25c3&hm=b1881e75c6ca9618abb4f8575210545b0a1caa0956dce80e9aae395906ee887d&
10:41 < bridge> <Sans> Can someone help me figure it out?
10:54 < bridge> <Sans> nvm found the function that generates the positionspostions
10:54 < bridge> <Sans> nvm found the function that generates the positions
10:56 < bridge> <forgottenabscat> I can say this is a wonderful way to learn C++
10:57 < bridge> <forgottenabscat> messing with the source code is fun
11:01 < bridge> <ryozuki> its how u truly learn
11:01 < bridge> <ryozuki> but u should learn some basics too
11:01 < bridge> <ryozuki> by reading stuff
11:01 < bridge> <meloƞ> `why on earth isn't this working???`
11:02 < bridge> <meloƞ> `WHY IS THIS WORKIN???`
11:02 < bridge> <forgottenabscat> for me mostly
11:02 < bridge> <forgottenabscat> `Where are you working???`
11:03 < bridge> <meloƞ> `who is your master?`
11:03 < bridge> <forgottenabscat> `Let's public everything`
11:03 < bridge> <meloƞ> all my classes are fren's with each other - so noone feels left behind
11:03 < bridge> <meloƞ> all my classes are frens with each other - so noone feels left behind
11:17 < bridge> <Sans> syntax? or wdym
11:18 < bridge> <Sans> I have a bit of a background in typescript with discord bots and other small time node projects
11:18 < bridge> <Sans> syntax looks very similar
11:18 < bridge> <Sans> I managed to add a setting btw, though I can't figure out how to make it affect anything
11:19 < bridge> <Sans> This, basically
11:19 < bridge> <Sans> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329756885360054353/image.png?ex=678b801b&is=678a2e9b&hm=1df1b510412a70118d4065a15a91803857dab2099f15cff0f78843efd803a3a9&
11:19 < bridge> <Sans> no idea where I might even look for this
11:19 < bridge> <meloƞ> syntax is something you just get into - it's mostly knowing how to do task X logically.
11:19 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
11:19 < bridge> <meloƞ> knowing the syntax of a 2D vector is one thing.
11:19 < bridge> <meloƞ> knowing how to work with it is another
11:19 < bridge> <meloƞ> getting into the OOP mindset when working in c++ is the thing that confused me the most
11:20 < bridge> <meloƞ> classes, structs, enums, public, private, protected, friends, STL
11:20 < bridge> <Sans> oop is no problem, I prefer it over functional paradigm
11:20 < bridge> <Sans> it's just C++ as a whole is scary
11:20 < bridge> <meloƞ> idk i like rust more - it just feels more humane to work in :kek:
11:20 < bridge> <Sans> structs, friends and STL I have no idea what they are
11:21 < bridge> <Sans> I might guess structs are the equivalent of typescript interfaces?
11:21 < bridge> <Sans> ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
11:21 < bridge> <Sans> I'm learning by comparison
11:21 < bridge> <meloƞ> https://www.dre.vanderbilt.edu/~schmidt/PDF/stl.pdf
11:21 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
11:21 < bridge> <meloƞ> give it a read, it's awesome
11:21 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> structs are classes with different defaults in cpp
11:21 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> every field is public
11:21 < bridge> <meloƞ> also structs are public by default
11:22 < bridge> <Sans> so, a glorified typescript interface
11:22 < bridge> <Sans> easy enough to remember
11:22 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> i think ddnet only uses structs for POD
11:22 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> which means no inheritence or containers
11:23 < bridge> <Sans> another acronym
11:23 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> only plain old data
11:23 < bridge> <meloƞ> eh not really, structs have actual allocation, IIRC typescript handles that differently?
11:23 < bridge> <meloƞ> i only ever used typescript once for a discord bot :kekw:
11:23 < bridge> <Sans> interfaces are basically abstract classes
11:23 < bridge> <Sans> I suppose
11:24 < bridge> <Sans> You just don't initialize them
11:24 < bridge> <Sans> You just don't define them the same way
11:24 < bridge> <meloƞ> ah so it's some compile-time stuff
11:24 < bridge> <meloƞ> ew
11:24 < bridge> <Sans> yeah
11:25 < bridge> <Sans> They're useful mostly when it's not worth the effort to write a class for an object
11:25 < bridge> <milkeeycat> compile time in ts 😬
11:25 < bridge> <Sans> and they're more flexible
11:25 < bridge> <Sans> :Bruh:
11:25 < bridge> <Sans> why do ppl crap on TS
11:25 < bridge> <Sans> it's awesome
11:25 < bridge> <Sans> (compared to js)
11:26 < bridge> <ryozuki> memory, pointers, arrays, etc
11:26 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> typescript is better than pyson, but that's about it
11:26 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 😬
11:26 < bridge> <ryozuki> C is easier to learn this
11:26 < bridge> <Sans> I have angered the gods with that one holy shit
11:26 < bridge> <Sans> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329758664210255882/image.png?ex=678b81c3&is=678a3043&hm=cf5cf3193404691ce595ce1cfbe3c6b1702bc65429ff9e9eb648d8d3b9779b65&
11:26 < bridge> <ryozuki> c++ has too much magic
11:26 < bridge> <meloƞ> C makes it easier to bite your tongue
11:26 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> yes
11:26 < bridge> <kollpotato> lets go rust mentioned
11:26 < bridge> <Ewan> there’s a lot to it my bwoah
11:26 < bridge> <ryozuki> c++ makes it even easier, but i just mean C is good to learn what pointers are and manual memory management
11:26 < bridge> <ryozuki> then once you know how it works you move to rust
11:27 < bridge> <Sans> arrays are easy enough, pointers might take a bit to get used to, and holy mother of jesus if i touch memory I'll make my ram sticks explode
11:27 < bridge> <Ewan> disagreed
11:27 < bridge> <ryozuki> if you dont know pointers u dont know arrays
11:27 < bridge> <meloƞ> i wonder when your zig phase will start :kekw:
11:27 < bridge> <ryozuki> makes it even easier to shoot ur foot
11:27 < bridge> <Ewan> modern c++ initiatives are focused on making the language safer
11:27 < bridge> <Sans> arrays are just a list of values no?
11:27 < bridge> <Sans> im comparing everything to TS, sorry
11:27 < bridge> <meloƞ> i remember reading something along the lines of:
11:27 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
11:27 < bridge> <meloƞ> C makes it easier to shoot your foot
11:27 < bridge> <meloƞ> if you manage to do that in C++, you shoot off your whole leg
11:28 < bridge> <Ewan> conceptually sure
11:28 < bridge> <Ewan> they are directly related to pointers in c/++
11:28 < bridge> <Ewan> theres a lot
11:29 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> i always feel like cpp has too many ways to solve an issue.
11:29 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 
11:29 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> u have modern cpp, old cpp, c
11:29 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> managed, unmanaged
11:29 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 
11:29 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> and usually you mix all xd
11:29 < bridge> <Sans> at any rate, I wanna finish this small experiment, can someone guide me to where might I print something to F1 on startup?
11:29 < bridge> <Sans> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329759379351670815/image.png?ex=678b826d&is=678a30ed&hm=0a41fcef49cade4b4657296b8122e1442b554f694d3380f3efc3c0a2d273ad98&
11:29 < bridge> <meloƞ> i wonder if there is even a reason to use array over vectors?
11:29 < bridge> <ryozuki> a growable array is usually made of 3 components, the pointer that points at the start of the data, which is laid in memory contiguously
11:29 < bridge> <ryozuki> ptr -> (some place in the heap) x1,x2,x3
11:29 < bridge> <ryozuki> current_length
11:29 < bridge> <ryozuki> capacity
11:29 < bridge> <meloƞ> hol up - array's are fixed size aren't they
11:29 < bridge> <kollpotato> yea
11:29 < bridge> <meloƞ> `growable array` makes no sense
11:29 < bridge> <ryozuki> array is a ambiguous word
11:29 < bridge> <ryozuki> xD
11:29 < bridge> <meloƞ> maybe i just suck at english
11:29 < bridge> <meloƞ> LOL
11:29 < bridge> <ryozuki> i said growable array so its growable
11:30 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> simply after the console was initialized xd
11:30 < bridge> <ryozuki> growable array = vector
11:30 < bridge> <Ewan> this is an arbitrarily named structure
11:30 < bridge> <Ewan> distinct from the specific array syntax
11:30 < bridge> <Sans> no idea where that is or what file to even search for
11:30 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> ig u could look in engine/client.cpp or gameclient.cpp
11:30 < bridge> <Sans> I call it F1, but idk how it's called in the project
11:30 < bridge> <Ewan> CConsole oninit fn
11:30 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> they have oninit functions or similar
11:30 < bridge> <ryozuki> ripgrep is ur friend
11:30 < bridge> <ryozuki> also if ur on windows switch to gentoo right now
11:31 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> also if you are on gentoo, buy the best CPU now
11:31 < bridge> <ryozuki> this is not a threat (it is)
11:31 < bridge> <Sans> I'm too lazy to dual boot
11:31 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> also if you buy the best CPU, buy the best GPU too
11:31 < bridge> <ryozuki> then dont dual boot
11:31 < bridge> <ryozuki> :deen_star:
11:31 < bridge> <meloƞ> Ryozuki trying to convert people to gentoo like some sort of Jehovah's Witness
11:31 < bridge> <Ewan> also if you’re on gentoo, sell it bcs their package cache will make it unnecessary soon
11:31 < bridge> <Sans> I must, because of AC games
11:31 < bridge> <Sans> :sad:
11:31 < bridge> <ryozuki> assasins creed?
11:31 < bridge> <meloƞ> anticheat ig
11:31 < bridge> <Sans> anticheat
11:31 < bridge> <Ewan> anticheat
11:31 < bridge> <Sans> yeah
11:31 < bridge> <Ewan> weakness
11:31 < bridge> <ryozuki> what games u play
11:32 < bridge> <totar> you should put all your features in a new client component, this is the easiest way to add things to the game.
11:32 < bridge> <Sans> valorant and basically any online game you find on steam
11:32 < bridge> <ryozuki> i play dota on linux
11:32 < bridge> <Ewan> valorant is crazy
11:32 < bridge> <meloƞ> valorant: true
11:32 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
11:32 < bridge> <meloƞ> every other game: absolutely false
11:32 < bridge> <ryozuki> and poe 1 and 2
11:32 < bridge> <Ewan> have u played poe2 early access
11:32 < bridge> <ryozuki> i think eac has linux support
11:32 < bridge> <ryozuki> if u tick a checkmark
11:32 < bridge> <meloƞ> it's really only vanguard that's running on kernel level that's ass
11:32 < bridge> <ryozuki> which is stupid af
11:32 < bridge> <Ewan> opt in per game
11:32 < bridge> <Ewan> on dev side
11:32 < bridge> <ryozuki> yeah, stupid
11:32 < bridge> <Sans> So far I just added a new settings tab and added that
11:32 < bridge> <ryozuki> just enable it always
11:33 < bridge> <ryozuki> @sans._. i have a blog post series on ddnet coding, maybe a bit outdated but works https://edgl.dev/categories/ddracenetwork/
11:33 < bridge> <Ewan> sticking with windows for valorant is something I will never understand
11:33 < bridge> <Ewan> that game has zero charisma
11:33 < bridge> <Ewan> i played it like 5 times i just dont get it
11:33 < bridge> <Sans> If you can get it running on any linux distro I'll switch to it
11:33 < bridge> <ryozuki> isnt marvel hearoes the hype now
11:33 < bridge> <Ewan> not yet
11:33 < bridge> <Sans> otherwise I'll have my windows OS with a side of microsoft bullshit
11:33 < bridge> <Ewan> give it 18mos
11:33 < bridge> <ryozuki> @mpft i heard valorant is mostly played bi egirls
11:33 < bridge> <ryozuki> @mpft i heard valorant is mostly played by egirls
11:33 < bridge> <Ewan> checks out
11:34 < bridge> <meloƞ> i dont want some cringy ahh people uwu'ing in my ear, that's why i played counter strike for most of my live. the screaming toxicity is what gets me going in games
11:34 < bridge> <Ewan> same
11:34 < bridge> <Sans> wrong, it's played by dudes pretending to be egirls
11:34 < bridge> <ryozuki> my sister played it
11:34 < bridge> <ryozuki> she is not a egirl tho
11:34 < bridge> <Sans> well, she's a dude now
11:34 < bridge> <meloƞ> your sister a dude now
11:34 < bridge> <Ewan> ur sister sounds moral
11:34 < bridge> <ryozuki> she mostly plays the sims 4
11:34 < bridge> <ryozuki> idk what the appeal is
11:34 < bridge> <Ewan> lfg
11:34 < bridge> <ryozuki> but she has lot of hours
11:35 < bridge> <Ewan> much better than valorant
11:35 < bridge> <Ewan> it scratches an itch in the ape brain
11:35 < bridge> <Sans> anything less than 500 and she can still go back to having a normal life, go go go
11:35 < bridge> <Sans> 
11:35 < bridge> <Sans> make her quit this god forsaken game <a:elmoburn:737726333798449172>
11:35 < bridge> <totar> that's good but learning how the components work is the definitely the easiest way to add powerful features without interfering with the rest of the code.
11:35 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> imagine being a sims4 pro
11:35 < bridge> <ryozuki> she had over 1 or 2k idk
11:35 < bridge> <Ewan> i think his goal is to learn tho
11:36 < bridge> <Ewan> so
11:36 < bridge> <Sans> how might I do that? just a new file with whatever I need in it right?
11:36 < bridge> <Ewan> yes
11:36 < bridge> <ryozuki> u need to tinker with cmake then
11:36 < bridge> <Ewan> look at other component class structures
11:36 < bridge> <meloƞ> our cmake file is horrible anyway, cmake allows to recursively add files, IIRC we're only not doing that because of some antibot shii
11:37 < bridge> <Ewan> their class and member definitions are rly important and you should see how it works pretty quick
11:37 < bridge> <meloƞ> countryflag_de
11:37 < bridge> <meloƞ> countryflag_en
11:37 < bridge> <meloƞ> countryflag*
11:37 < bridge> <meloƞ> *
11:37 < bridge> <meloƞ> *
11:37 < bridge> <meloƞ> *
11:37 < bridge> <meloƞ> *
11:37 < bridge> <meloƞ> *
11:37 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
11:37 < bridge> <meloƞ> horrible.
11:37 < bridge> <Ewan> globbing for source files is considered bad practice
11:37 < bridge> <ryozuki> cuz heinrich says glob is evil
11:37 < bridge> <meloƞ> why is it bad practice :( `*.h *.cpp` and you're gucchi
11:37 < bridge> <Ewan> Gucchi
11:37 < bridge> <Ewan> You live in the same continent bro
11:37 < bridge> <meloƞ> why is it bad practice :( `*.h *.cpp` and you're gucci
11:37 < bridge> <meloƞ> god damn it.
11:38 < bridge> <Ewan> xd
11:38 < bridge> <Ewan> high potential for mistakes ig
11:38 < bridge> <totar> imo we should be globbing for asset files
11:38 < bridge> <Ewan> and it’s just better to be explicit
11:38 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> i'd rather glob source than assets xd
11:38 < bridge> <totar> rly?
11:38 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> source needs to compile
11:38 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> assets can easily be unused
11:39 < bridge> <ryozuki> globbing allows a threat actor do add a file easier
11:39 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> but tbh, i'd probs wildcard both xD
11:39 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> bcs i dealing with the cmake stuff is just annoying indeed
11:39 < bridge> <totar> I don't think specifying the assets makes it any less likely one gets unused
11:39 < bridge> <ryozuki> who wants coconut milk
11:39 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329762030688796713/image.png?ex=678b84e5&is=678a3365&hm=cb85198bd55e457e2cc2eaff2ec22336cdfef8fd95149ceb5690b38323e9c4fd&
11:39 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> especially bcs we have no tools to automate stuff. u need to manually place them in alphabetically order
11:39 < bridge> <meloƞ> i thought you stopperd playing ffXIV
11:39 < bridge> <meloƞ> i thought you stopped playing ffXIV
11:39 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> additionally my file explorer disagrees with the order we chose xD
11:39 < bridge> <ryozuki> lol no
11:40 < bridge> <Ewan> can you ever quit a game like that
11:40 < bridge> <ryozuki> im nearly full leveled on all
11:40 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329762166907211776/image.png?ex=678b8506&is=678a3386&hm=ddb5302de1fbb3b8cbdbe9d8c6c8e48e9908b16dbcdb58ac8f34df98ed5d24d3&
11:40 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> small ad
11:40 < bridge> <Ewan> i learned this like last month but apparently my dad just still plays his star wars mmo all day
11:40 < bridge> <totar> a lot of the assets literally can't be unused if they exist in the folder
11:40 < bridge> <ryozuki> i have 185 days played as ingame hours
11:40 < bridge> <totar> the client will always load them and error if it's wrong
11:40 < bridge> <ryozuki> i cant leave
11:40 < bridge> <ryozuki> but im playing more ddnet now
11:41 < bridge> <Ewan> nice
11:41 < bridge> <ryozuki> proof
11:41 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329762411640787034/image.png?ex=678b8540&is=678a33c0&hm=0fb76cedf3762efcbfe9363fe214aa8276c45d18dfc03f3f2db274c4f061a940&
11:41 < bridge> <Ewan> ill have to add your name to friends
11:41 < bridge> <Ewan> nobody i like in usa plays anymore
11:42 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> that's almost addiciton level again, nice
11:42 < bridge> <ryozuki> my skill is still somewhat there
11:42 < bridge> <meloƞ> i'm still unsure what's bad practice about `file(GLOB_RECURSE GAME_SERVER src/game/server/*.c src/game/server/*.cpp src/game/server/*.h)` for example, we're bound to the src path `src/game/server` anyway for example :(
11:42 < bridge> <Ewan> that is actually really solid work lol
11:42 < bridge> <ryozuki> like riding a bike
11:42 < bridge> <ryozuki> im just finishing ez maps
11:42 < bridge> <ryozuki> what is
11:43 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> probably none. it's simply a matter of taste
11:43 < bridge> <louis> ur not an asian eboy u wouldnt understand
11:44 < bridge> <ryozuki> he is from romania tho
11:44 < bridge> <ryozuki> discord is such a stalker tool
11:44 < bridge> <Ewan> not necessarily, there is a valid case to be made for a generation time & compile time discrepancies
11:44 < bridge> <ryozuki> but ppl just put their info there
11:44 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> a wildcard motivates you to more easily create files, potentially making your logic split more cleanly, resulting in a better code structure.
11:44 < bridge> <ryozuki> :justatest:
11:44 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329763272714616854/image.png?ex=678b860e&is=678a348e&hm=f39ec46a8b5d45df93137a54b8a380fba7beac51cc71523587aebd88a261d6d2&
11:44 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> but how slow should a glob be xd
11:44 < bridge> <Ewan> if a dev added a new file upstream and you pulled, but didn’t have a need to change cmakelists or run cmake again, you will get confusing linker errors when trying to compile
11:45 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> i doubt parsing the cmake script is much faster
11:45 < bridge> <totar> the alphabetical order thing is annoying af
11:45 < bridge> <Ewan> agreed
11:45 < bridge> <ryozuki> why dont we switch to mason
11:45 < bridge> <Ewan> overkill and stupid
11:45 < bridge> <Ewan> meson isn’t there
11:45 < bridge> <totar> I'm more annoyed that cmake doesn't tell you how to fix it when you do it wrong
11:46 < bridge> <totar> or at least which line the ordering broke at
11:46 < bridge> <totar> it just tells you "something in this list is wrong"
11:46 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> will that never be removed from ur acc?
11:46 < bridge> <Ewan> why would they
11:46 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> how did u even get it?
11:47 < bridge> <totar> it becomes invisible after 10 years I think
11:47 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> i dunno, imagine u 13y old kiddie xd
11:47 < bridge> <ryozuki> its not my acc its sans
11:47 < bridge> <ryozuki> and yeah its there forever
11:47 < bridge> <Ewan> the vac ban lasts a set amount of time, but the history should stay imo
11:47 < bridge> <totar> 7 years actually
11:48 < bridge> <oxyzo.> im going to get a vac ban in those 10 years
11:48 < bridge> <ryozuki> i never had a vac
11:48 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329764231180193792/image.png?ex=678b86f2&is=678a3572&hm=eb22329a971bf69923b5ae5a2cce6f6aaa26acc12dc54e8e4e8bb12a4de2c5bd&
11:48 < bridge> <Ewan> me neither
11:48 < bridge> <Ewan> i only have 9yrs of service
11:48 < bridge> <Ewan> feelsbadman
11:48 < bridge> <ryozuki> young
11:48 < bridge> <ryozuki> im old
11:48 < bridge> <ryozuki> 24
11:48 < bridge> <Ewan> i made acc when i was 10 ig
11:49 < bridge> <Ewan> u old fart
11:49 < bridge> <totar> the shame is part of the punishment
11:49 < bridge> <Ewan> yea
11:49 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> for me steam is down rn lol
11:49 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329764585103691797/image.png?ex=678b8746&is=678a35c6&hm=8c7d523e6b8439d45bc1a69d4448b7f10db90440052d1d0770288c245e1d371f&
11:49 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> well steamcommunity to be precise
11:49 < bridge> <ryozuki> it is
11:50 < bridge> <Ewan> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329764685708529705/IMG_7419.png?ex=678b875e&is=678a35de&hm=131446e8d4637658cfc299e6c1825321ef5d546453edddfe6deecc997f228576&
11:50 < bridge> <Ewan> yeah
11:50 < bridge> <louis> level 79 wow
11:50 < bridge> <louis> how many badges did u buy
11:50 < bridge> <louis> cards
11:50 < bridge> <ryozuki> i didnt buy badges
11:50 < bridge> <ryozuki> i use points to buy season badge
11:50 < bridge> <ryozuki> in point shop
11:50 < bridge> <ryozuki> it gives lot of lvls
11:50 < bridge> <louis> ah ok
11:50 < bridge> <louis> i use points to get anime pfps and bgs lmfao
11:50 < bridge> <ryozuki> xd
11:50 < bridge> <Ewan> that’s the thing about steam i could never get with lol
11:50 < bridge> <Ewan> all the marketplace shit
11:51 < bridge> <Ewan> i wanna buy games man and then play them
11:51 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> the most annoying thing about steam is, that it's 32 bit and the loading times are just insanely bad xd
11:51 < bridge> <Ewan> it’s quite sad how the desktop app ended up
11:51 < bridge> <ryozuki> my cat is sleeping profoundly
11:51 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329765090211266571/PXL_20250117_105106556.jpg?ex=678b87bf&is=678a363f&hm=b59a4ce621dbd430753a404de4455ce6c58fe50fc7f2bc6594665a4015c8ec47&
11:51 < bridge> <Ewan> going from vgui straight to web is sad
11:52 < bridge> <louis> marketplace is a good invention
11:52 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329765197900025897/image.png?ex=678b87d9&is=678a3659&hm=8e15f6eae5fb62adafc25a728273e695a917d245fdd43717d66bd118a9bc3c6a&
11:52 < bridge> <louis> allows u to make $0.50/hour playing csgo
11:52 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> man i am longer in steam than learath on this world
11:52 < bridge> <oxyzo.> :greenthing:
11:52 < bridge> <Ewan> lmfao
11:52 < bridge> <totar> I haven't had many issues with the webness of the steam app in the last couple years
11:53 < bridge> <Ewan> windows user spotted
11:53 < bridge> <louis> it just feels sluggish
11:53 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> heroic games launcher is made in typescript too, but is just trillion times faster
11:53 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> i hope they add steam support some day
11:53 < bridge> <Ewan> apps shouldn’t need hardware acceleration to feel snappy in day to day use
11:54 < bridge> <Ewan> that’s the epic alternative right? ironic cuz epic actually makes theirs in unreal and it’s somehow worse
11:54 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> epic & gog
11:55 < bridge> <Ewan> the thing is if anyone in the gaming industry knows how to architect a large scale C++ project it’s valve
11:55 < bridge> <Ewan> and they choose web for what 90% of ppl will see valve as
11:55 < bridge> <Ewan> and they don’t even do it well
11:56 < bridge> <Ewan> not even cpp strictly but a language where you have to think about stuff
11:57 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> how to change ddnet language?
11:57 < bridge> <totar> Open settings -> Press "Language"
11:57 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> I meant something else
11:57 < bridge> <Ewan> im not buying what you’re selling skibidi man
11:58 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> how to make it say something else instead of the name play
11:58 < bridge> <Ewan> how to formulate a question in a logical way
11:58 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> wtf im selling
11:58 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> my english language in C4
11:58 < bridge> <Ewan> I’m going to strap c4 to your chest
11:59 < bridge> <louis> search the entire project for "Play", find where the button is defined, then change the string
11:59 < bridge> <louis> are you familiar with programming? if not then learn the basics before u try to mod ddnet
11:59 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> i need to modify source code?
11:59 < bridge> <Ewan> Yes
11:59 < bridge> <Ewan> or open a hex editor and search
12:00 < bridge> <Ewan> it’s all in .data
12:00 < bridge> <Ewan> the cosntants at least
12:00 < bridge> <totar> you could make a new translation file and put it in the folder
12:00 < bridge> <Ewan> he was in here trolling other day
12:00 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://tenor.com/view/skibidi-toilet-spiderman-skibidi-gif-11268458470528183028
12:00 < bridge> <Ewan> true.
12:00 < bridge> <Ewan> so sad they cancelled skibidi toilet movie
12:00 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> where is the folder
12:00 < bridge> <totar> data/languages
12:00 < bridge> <ryozuki> im so out of the loop with these zoomer memes
12:00 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> ok I'll try
12:01 < bridge> <meloƞ> learath can educate you old man
12:01 < bridge> <Ewan> the director was too lmfao
12:01 < bridge> <meloƞ> dude has sigma rizz
12:01 < bridge> <ryozuki> im younger than lea xd
12:01 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> bro shutup
12:01 < bridge> <Ewan> who wants timeout
12:01 < bridge> <ryozuki> nein
12:01 < bridge> <meloƞ> can't be true, learath is between 8-85 years old
12:01 < bridge> <meloƞ> its called rustup - you're close!
12:01 < bridge> <Ewan> lmfao
12:01 < bridge> <totar> lol
12:01 < bridge> <ryozuki> a 36 to 36 balancer
12:01 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329767615060508732/i-made-a-36-to-36-belt-balancer-using-only-turbo-belts-v0-rnuhpdss6jde1.png?ex=678b8a19&is=678a3899&hm=f4df3ce8ea5f0f2fe66ba231a8f160a531361e8dfea70b8b8b86549f18ee7935&
12:01 < bridge> <louis> say on skibidi
12:01 < bridge> <Ewan> factorial
12:02 < bridge> <totar> where's the SAT solver version
12:02 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> why do y'all dislike my nickname
12:02 < bridge> <Ewan> nothing wrong with it it’s just obvious that you’re 11 y/o
12:03 < bridge> <meloƞ> i give you 1 minute to choose something else and i'll set it for you
12:03 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> wdym
12:03 < bridge> <Ewan> wait but there’s nothing actually wrong with it tho
12:03 < bridge> <Ewan> it’s just funny
12:03 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> true
12:03 < bridge> <meloƞ> thought about just nicknaming you to rizzler
12:03 < bridge> <ryozuki> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8qcQi8_YpXg
12:03 < bridge> <ryozuki> :justatest:
12:04 < bridge> <Ewan> why that face
12:04 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> NOO
12:04 < bridge> <ryozuki> @mpft elon doesnt know how to do a rm -rf
12:04 < bridge> <Ewan> yeah he’s a fucking rich kid idiot
12:05 < bridge> <Ewan> who somehow controls my country
12:05 < bridge> <meloƞ> elon musk yoinking asmongold's blue checkmark after asmon said there's no way elon actually is one of the top players in poe2 is insane
12:05 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
12:05 < bridge> <meloƞ> and this dude has direct access to the president :kekw:
12:05 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> wtf
12:05 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> there no english language
12:05 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> in languages folder
12:05 < bridge> <louis> its probably the default
12:05 < bridge> <Ewan> LMFAO
12:05 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> dumb game
12:05 < bridge> <Ewan> i can imagine elon just slushing the marketplace
12:06 < bridge> <meloƞ> reminder what happened when elon twittered
12:06 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
12:06 < bridge> <meloƞ> `Doge`
12:06 < bridge> <meloƞ> just that.
12:06 < bridge> <Ewan> i know more about this guy than i ever wanted to
12:07 < bridge> <meloƞ> https://x.com/elonmusk/status/1642962756906418176
12:07 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
12:07 < bridge> <meloƞ> :kekw:
12:07 < bridge> <Ewan> x.com links in 2025
12:07 < bridge> <totar> make a file that looks like this
12:07 < bridge> <totar> ```
12:07 < bridge> <totar> Play
12:07 < bridge> <totar> == YOUR PLAY BUTTON
12:07 < bridge> <totar> ```
12:08 < bridge> <Ewan> devs speak english so i guess you’ll have to live with it
12:09 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> bro why not Chinese
12:09 < bridge> <Ewan> most of the devs don’t speak chinese
12:09 < bridge> <Ewan> this chat is mostly american and european rn
12:09 < bridge> <Sans> There is chinese
12:09 < bridge> <Ewan> he means default
12:10 < bridge> <Sans> ah
12:10 < bridge> <Sans> Is there anything that chooses the language on first startup?
12:10 < bridge> <Ewan> it’s locale dependent
12:10 < bridge> <Sans> so if someone's PC is in korean, the game is by default in korean
12:10 < bridge> <Sans> right
12:10 < bridge> <Sans> ?
12:10 < bridge> <Ewan> you’d hope so
12:10 < bridge> <Sans> :Bruh:
12:10 < bridge> <Ewan> but i’ve never tested xD
12:11 < bridge> <Sans> i aint changing my system's locale to check that
12:11 < bridge> <Ewan> exactly
12:11 < bridge> <Ewan> but yeah that’s how it’s worked historically
12:11 < bridge> <Ewan> i mean locale goes back really far
12:11 < bridge> <Sans> sadly still no DDNet Thai
12:11 < bridge> <Sans> :sad:
12:11 < bridge> <Ewan> detection has always been important not just for language but processing data too
12:11 < bridge> <Sans> how so?
12:12 < bridge> <Ewan> before unicode, how do u determine which charset do u need
12:12 < bridge> <Sans> oh
12:12 < bridge> <Ewan> before unicode, how do u determine which charset u need
12:12 < bridge> <Ewan> or encoding ig
12:12 < bridge> <Sans> Yeah I get what you mean
12:12 < bridge> <Sans> idk
12:12 < bridge> <Sans> that's why computer wizards exist
12:12 < bridge> <Sans> some of them even know ancient languages like fortran
12:13 < bridge> <Ewan> do you know a stoned smurf
12:13 < bridge> <Sans> @stoned_smurf bro the devs are onto you, run!
12:13 < bridge> <Sans> yeah, that guy
12:13 < bridge> <Ewan> you are the same guy…
12:13 < bridge> <Sans> wdym?
12:13 < bridge> <Ewan> nice
12:14 < bridge> <Ewan> i just know he knew a sans
12:14 < bridge> <Ewan> from ddnet
12:14 < bridge> <Sans> im probably the single-most known player with Sans as their name (ig Sans3108 because Sans is taken by someone in china)
12:14 < bridge> <Sans> im probably the single-most known player with Sans as their name (ign Sans3108 because Sans is taken by someone in china)
12:15 < bridge> <Ewan> sans undertale
12:15 < bridge> <Sans> This is pain and suffering at it's peak, why can't we use external apps :(
12:15 < bridge> <Sans> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329771177547268166/image.png?ex=678b8d6a&is=678a3bea&hm=99f9f3c7758672629c8f6316be132cc55fdf9c4c30fcea5c5d828a87877cc97a&
12:16 < bridge> <Ewan> who needs that
12:16 < bridge> <Ewan> why
12:16 < bridge> <Sans> why not?
12:16 < bridge> <Ewan> there’s gotta be a reason why
12:16 < bridge> <Sans> It's a discord bot, a tool
12:16 < bridge> <Sans> tools are made to be used
12:16 < bridge> <Ewan> especially considering this chat is also bridged to irc and matrix so discord specific features are not translatable
12:16 < bridge> <Ewan> this is a very new concept in discord
12:16 < bridge> <Sans> not really
12:16 < bridge> <Ewan> and i have to say, they probably should have asked users first
12:17 < bridge> <ryozuki> this channel is pure
12:17 < bridge> <Sans> very easily translatable
12:17 < bridge> <Ewan> nobody uses this shit
12:17 < bridge> <ryozuki> to thrill rust and ddnet
12:17 < bridge> <ryozuki> and linux
12:17 < bridge> <Ewan> except for discord bot circlejerk groups
12:17 < bridge> <ryozuki> and vulkan
12:17 < bridge> <Sans> I have about a billion people disagreeing with you
12:17 < bridge> <ryozuki> i never seen someone use a app in discord
12:17 < bridge> <Ewan> i think we have different use cases here
12:17 < bridge> <Ewan> we’re here to conversate
12:17 < bridge> <Ewan> with speech
12:17 < bridge> <Ewan> written word
12:18 < bridge> <Sans> :Bruh:
12:18 < bridge> <Sans> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329771745112231936/image.png?ex=678b8df1&is=678a3c71&hm=240a09e8b8547b7dfedb519a9d9e1b26df181d18060eb9796214da5e276e71c7&
12:18 < bridge> <louis> tools are invisible if you don't want them though
12:18 < bridge> <Ewan> perhaps an image
12:18 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> i activated c4 by mistake
12:18 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> i have no more house
12:18 < bridge> <Sans> defuse it
12:19 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> to late
12:19 < bridge> <Ewan> it’s too late
12:19 < bridge> <Ewan> rip
12:19 < bridge> <Sans> nah, you got 40 seconds
12:19 < bridge> <Sans> the code is 7355608
12:19 < bridge> <teero777> Create an implosion with the same strength
12:19 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> it's already boomed
12:19 < bridge> <Sans> damn, there's always next round ig
12:20 < bridge> <Ewan> i hit you with a hammer and then you explode
12:20 < bridge> <Sans> that's not very scientifically accurate of you
12:20 < bridge> <Sans> smh
12:20 < bridge> <Ewan> you have to wait a little bit
12:21 < bridge> <Ewan> and i have to be the bomb first
12:21 < bridge> <Sans> You have more chances for the hammer to phase through me than for me to explode on impact
12:21 < bridge> <Ewan> tsk
12:21 < bridge> <Ewan> this guy doesn’t play bomb tag
12:22 < bridge> <Sans> bomb tag is just hot potato
12:22 < bridge> <Ewan> no because you explode
12:22 < bridge> <Ewan> you don’t burn your hand slightly
12:22 < bridge> <Ewan> you literally explode
12:22 < bridge> <Ewan> high stakes game
12:24 < bridge> <Sans> How does one print something to the F1 console?
12:28 < bridge> <learath2> Because external apps are not audited at all. So people just make spammer apps
12:29 < bridge> <Sans> aw
12:39 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> why
12:39 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> ahy
12:39 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> why
12:40 < bridge> <Ewan> like any of us know
12:40 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> why when i adding own lang
12:40 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> it doesn't apper in languages tab
12:40 < bridge> <Ewan> i thought you meant in general
12:40 < bridge> <Ewan> dunno
12:41 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> dk u think i stupid
12:42 < bridge> <Ewan> no it’s just a really hard question
12:47 < bridge> <Sans> How do I get the name of the player here? This keeps ending up as "Nameless Tee"
12:47 < bridge> <Sans> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329779172805050428/image.png?ex=678b94dc&is=678a435c&hm=d4b24f55442c50d0d5c064510b4679a0cad3e53edb19ae5d00d9dbee4e054873&
12:48 < bridge> <Sans> nvm my name was set to Nameless Tee
12:48 < bridge> <Sans> oops
12:55 < bridge> <Sans> :owo: I've done it, I'm so proud of myself
12:55 < bridge> <Sans> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329781036569067621/image.png?ex=678b9699&is=678a4519&hm=dc2927383a92717aeec06e8f2902130f3336d1882863cbd84d52bd21a8a5985d&
13:00 < bridge> <meloƞ> :poggers2:
13:00 < bridge> <Sans> New goal: re-create fussel's client
13:01 < bridge> <meloƞ> :pepeW:
13:01 < bridge> <Sans> jk, im nowhere near that level of expert
13:01 < bridge> <meloƞ> :pepeW: :pepeW:
14:30 < bridge> <oxyzo.> add minecraft in ddnet settings
14:45 < bridge> <zhn> @robyt3 CFlow fits really well in vanilla, thanks for this opened treasure :P
15:08 < bridge> <swarfey> yeah i did not promote it anywhere, only ogs from my server know it :x
15:09 < bridge> <swarfey> what are tdtw animations?
15:23 < bridge> <zhn> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ixn4RLcAhg
15:23 < bridge> <zhn> 10 year old thing already xd
15:24 < bridge> <kollpotato> so silly
15:24 < bridge> <kollpotato> i love it
15:25 < bridge> <swarfey> i wonder how it looks like on hammerhit maps
15:27 < bridge> <zhn> just try it out :P
15:43 < bridge> <Sans> that's so cute but very distracting XD
15:46 < bridge> <zhn> looks really good on fast paced mods ngl
15:47 < bridge> <zhn> for me at least
15:47 < bridge> <zhn> i can better feel the tee positioning
15:51 < bridge> <bencie.> @jupeyy_keks is it possible to host a multiplayer editor session through the terminal?
15:52 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> yes, but that currently requires you to self compile the editor-server
15:53 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> `cargo run --release -p editor-server -- path.map password port`
15:53 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 
15:53 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> the path of the map must be inside `~/.config/ddnet-editor-server`.
15:53 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> 
15:53 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> If you start the server once it should also create that dir
15:54 < bridge> <bencie.> tysm!
15:54 < bridge> <bencie.> :owo:
15:54 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> oh btw when it started it will show the cert hash
15:54 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> that is suddenly always required sadly
16:07 < bridge> <meloƞ> Thank you for this btw
16:07 < bridge> <meloƞ> 
16:07 < bridge> <meloƞ> Can't wait to test this out on my vps when i'm home
16:08 < bridge> <bencie.> i asked for that exact reason ^^
16:08 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> i never tested on a vps btw
16:08 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> might require weird deps
16:08 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> but should work
16:09 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> if it worked give me feedback what u had to do xd
16:10 < bridge> <meloƞ> I will be trying to Livestream the multiplayer editor consistently until we actually have a finished map - feel free to add any issue that you have on the issue tracker on GitHub, jupstar and maybe me will try to fix em then :greenthing:
16:10 < bridge> <bencie.> sure we found some annoyances with souly
16:13 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> bro why print("helo world") not working
16:13 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> it gives me an error
16:13 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> like there no such command in c++
16:14 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329831263795675146/image-41.png?ex=678bc560&is=678a73e0&hm=02ae09de31d694555af7f45162492b430792ab5d967ec9f8f297f6976d7115d9&
16:15 < bridge> <meloƞ> exactly, it's either printf for a formatted stdout, or just use std::cout <<
16:15 < bridge> <meloƞ> Also your file has no extension
16:15 < bridge> <meloƞ> You may want to start a YouTube tutorial for the absolute basics ^^
16:15 < bridge> <bencie.> im not even sure if we missed these features or theyre actually not in there, i couldnt find them in your issue:
16:15 < bridge> <bencie.> - no confirmation that you're hosting, i was confused whether it successfully staretd or not (also, hosting twice on the same port crashes game)
16:15 < bridge> <bencie.> - can't move layers up and down
16:15 < bridge> <bencie.> 
16:15 < bridge> <bencie.> should i add these?
16:16 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> i writed aimbot by mistake
16:16 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> what should i do
16:16 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> add everything
16:16 < bridge> <bencie.> aight
16:16 < bridge> <meloƞ> you can see connected people on the lop left, the icon will change when someone is connected, but a 'live' thingie seems nice
16:16 < bridge> <oxyzo.> write ddnet by mistake to fix it
16:16 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> ohh ok
16:16 < bridge> <bencie.> yea but if they havent connected
16:16 < bridge> <bencie.> or in my case, i did the wrong port so they couldnt connect anyways
16:17 < bridge> <bencie.> i had no way of telling if im hosting or not
16:17 < bridge> <bencie.> or in my case, i did the wrong port the first time so they couldnt connect anyways
16:17 < bridge> <meloƞ> Fair, just a way to display all your hosting data and like a green ball somewhere indicating that you're hosting or smith :owo:
16:17 < bridge> <bencie.> yeah!
16:17 < bridge> <meloƞ> Fair, just a way to display all your hosting data and like a green ball somewhere indicating that you're hosting or smth :owo:
16:17 < bridge> <bencie.> thatd also be good because if you choose random port, then you dont know what port ur hosting on
16:18 < bridge> <bencie.> thatd also be good because if you choose random port (0, which is the default) , then you dont know what port ur hosting on
16:18 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> well theoretically you always host your map. bcs the whole editor is built around the network functionality, even if u map alone
16:18 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> the host ui just lets u define a port
16:18 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> also guys
16:19 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> is steam recording better than obs?
16:19 < bridge> <meloƞ> So you're actually spying on me 24/7 - got it
16:19 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> yes
16:19 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> @bencie. btw if u have suggestions for all issues you find, please add them too, even if they are just unfinished thoughts
16:19 < bridge> <meloƞ> No idea
16:20 < bridge> <bencie.> alright
16:20 < bridge> <meloƞ> Bencie, formatting for check boxes is `- [ ]`
16:20 < bridge> <meloƞ> :owo:
16:20 < bridge> <bencie.> ye got it thanks
16:21 < bridge> <bencie.> :D
16:23 < bridge> <kollpotato> most epic markdown feature imo
18:39 < bridge> <kollpotato> ChillerDragon: im debugging my server again
18:39 < bridge> <kollpotato> the issue is so bad that i cant find the bug even with the help of wireshark
18:40 < bridge> <kollpotato> the packets are exactly the same that libtw2 server sents
18:40 < bridge> <kollpotato> so cool
18:47 < bridge> <zhn> what an issue
18:48 < bridge> <kollpotato> connection xd
18:48 < bridge> <kollpotato> client doesnt receive snapshots
18:48 < bridge> <zhn> does it connect at least?
18:48 < bridge> <kollpotato> yea
18:48 < bridge> <kollpotato> stuck here
18:48 < bridge> <kollpotato> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329870035287539834/image.png?ex=678be97c&is=678a97fc&hm=d420857b5903984bf6a5dfb385fc866fbe0838fb315ada66f1d0e2232507ab35&
18:48 < bridge> <kollpotato> even though i send snap single packets
18:49 < bridge> <zhn> but you don't need to afair
18:49 < bridge> <kollpotato> still stuck on that screen
18:49 < bridge> <kollpotato> hmm
18:51 < bridge> <kollpotato> everything looks fine here
18:51 < bridge> <kollpotato> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329870653326884985/image.png?ex=678bea0f&is=678a988f&hm=dc05b85e4326033fb07f1035c7db0ee42f57c656b5bd508b01a83f23c91fafe5&
18:51 < bridge> <kollpotato> so the client knows about the map, tunes and etc
18:53 < bridge> <swampboloto_33693> 19.0 when
18:53 < bridge> <zhn> do you send it as 1 packet?
18:53 < bridge> <kollpotato> i fixed it xd
18:53 < bridge> <learath2> I think you do need a couple full snaps before the client enters the game properly
18:53 < bridge> <kollpotato> delta tick was wrong
18:53 < bridge> <kollpotato> damn
18:53 < bridge> <zhn> lol
18:54 < bridge> <kollpotato> lets gooo
18:54 < bridge> <kollpotato> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329871385350111234/image.png?ex=678beabe&is=678a993e&hm=cb7f0e07a1e5e4e0d7ea539b7dbe3e6644aec5b7ad5b03ce94b457ded9e9481c&
18:54 < bridge> <kollpotato> ecs framework for teeworlds server coming soon
18:54 < bridge> <kollpotato> just wait a few years
18:55 < bridge> <zhn> don't tell me you are using bevy ecs
18:55 < bridge> <kollpotato> im not
18:55 < bridge> <kollpotato> i used it in previous implementation
18:55 < bridge> <zhn> what do you use now?
18:56 < bridge> <kollpotato> https://docs.rs/evenio/latest/evenio/
18:56 < bridge> <kollpotato> i kinda like it
18:56 < bridge> <zhn> have you ever tried edict :justatest:
18:57 < bridge> <kollpotato> never heard of that
18:57 < bridge> <kollpotato> i know about flecs
18:57 < bridge> <kollpotato> its kinda cool
18:57 < bridge> <kollpotato> but too much stuff that i dont need at all
18:57 < bridge> <zhn> flecs is a c library
18:57 < bridge> <zhn> afair
18:57 < bridge> <kollpotato> there is rust wrapper
18:58 < bridge> <kollpotato> https://github.com/Indra-db/Flecs-Rust
18:58 < bridge> <zhn> try it out :justatest:
18:58 < bridge> <kollpotato> maybe i should write the server using 4 different ecs libraries
18:58 < bridge> <kollpotato> what could possibly go wrong
19:00 < bridge> <kollpotato> if i run into limitations with evenio i might consider using it
19:00 < bridge> <kollpotato> since the author of the library disappeared for 7 months
19:02 < bridge> <thrava> anyone have an idea about team voting?
19:02 < bridge> <zhn> you can just ask roman to fix a bug for you in edict or request a feature
19:03 < bridge> <zhn> he will do it for real :justatest:
19:03 < bridge> <kollpotato> can he write a teeworlds server for me
19:03 < bridge> <kollpotato> :kek:
19:04 < bridge> <kollpotato> one of the reasons i use ecs is to avoid dealing with the borrow checker
19:04 < bridge> <kollpotato> shame on me
19:05 < bridge> <cosmicxenor> ## Hey, it would be really nice if you could use groups for groups to make mapping more clear
19:06 < bridge> <kollpotato> yea it would
19:06 < bridge> <kollpotato> but backwards compatibility
19:07 < bridge> <cosmicxenor> why should there be a problem?
19:07 < bridge> <kollpotato> because there will be
19:07 < bridge> <cosmicxenor> the old maps just wouldnt use it
19:07 < bridge> <kollpotato> what about old clients
19:07 < bridge> <cosmicxenor> and how are new things implemented?
19:08 < bridge> <kollpotato> make an issue on github, start implementing it or ask someone else to implement it, make a pr, get rejected or approved
19:08 < bridge> <learath2> You can probably hack it in a backwards compatible way where it will look awful on old clients editors but work ingame
19:08 < bridge> <cosmicxenor> pr?
19:08 < bridge> <kollpotato> pull request
19:08 < bridge> <kollpotato> with the updates to the code
19:09 < bridge> <cosmicxenor> how to do it?
19:09 < bridge> <kollpotato> do you know how to code in c++?
19:10 < bridge> <cosmicxenor> not really
19:10 < bridge> <cosmicxenor> maybe just a tiny little bit
19:10 < bridge> <kollpotato> afair there is already an issue about that on github
19:10 < bridge> <kollpotato> lemme find it
19:11 < bridge> <kollpotato> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/7892
19:12 < bridge> <cosmicxenor> so they already work on it?
19:12 < bridge> <cosmicxenor> or what does it mean?
19:12 < bridge> <kollpotato> no
19:12 < bridge> <kollpotato> no one works on it
19:12 < bridge> <kollpotato> its just an issue
19:19 < bridge> <hectavoxel> good idea
19:19 < bridge> <hectavoxel> we can make a snow mega group and not spam the editor layer ui
19:25 < bridge> <cosmicxenor> ok and when do we know if they will work on it?
19:27 < bridge> <hectavoxel> they wont
19:27 < bridge> <hectavoxel> welcome to ddnet
20:42 < bridge> <kollpotato> big oopsies
20:42 < bridge> <kollpotato> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329898647915335730/image.png?ex=678c0421&is=678ab2a1&hm=b1ecef4bf785503e18966212040eecce8df8130e98b09b89aed85cc30afd093e&
21:37 < bridge> <isowner> hi, i found an openssl lib in cmakelists, im tried just include
21:37 < bridge> <isowner> ```cpp
21:37 < bridge> <isowner> #include <openssl/aes.h>
21:38 < bridge> <isowner> #include <openssl/rand.h>
21:38 < bridge> <isowner> ```
21:38 < bridge> <isowner> but have error "cannot open openssl..."
21:38 < bridge> <isowner> how can i include it?(in engine/client/client.cpp)
21:38 < bridge> <bp_unmoggable> Does ddnet still officialy support x32 builds? Or will it be removed from ddnet site in the future
21:40 < bridge> <robyt3> Did you install OpenSSL with the header files? When running cmake it should show that OpenSSL was found
21:43 < bridge> <isowner> oh.. yea, im not installed it, where i may find his sources or ready dll?
21:43 < bridge> <robyt3> https://github.com/openssl/openssl/releases or your package manager if you use MSYS2
21:44 < bridge> <isowner> thanks
21:45 < bridge> <tombrider1337> I think @0xdeen was considering removing 32bit support, not sure. Would like to know too
21:45 < bridge> <Ewan> there’s no guarantee they will be kept, 32 bit computers account for an incredibly small amount of people now & a new, somewhat detrimental 32 bit specific bug was found recently
21:45 < bridge> <Ewan> btw what was up with that
21:45 < bridge> <robyt3> Windows 11 doesn't even have a 32 bit version anymore
21:46 < bridge> <Ewan> yeah
21:46 < bridge> <Ewan> did u ever get to the bottom of that though
21:46 < bridge> <Ewan> curious
21:47 < bridge> <robyt3> I think it was related to rust not supporting 32 bit anymore so we are using an older version to build now
21:48 < bridge> <tombrider1337> tclient is step ahead and doesn't even provide 32bit since beginning lol
21:48 < bridge> <isowner> idk how i may build it. he doesn't have cmakelists
21:49 < bridge> <robyt3> You can download a binary release not the source code
21:49 < bridge> <robyt3> I don't know how to build it either
21:50 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> guys
21:50 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> fast
21:50 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> what should i do if i wrote aimbot
21:50 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> by mistake
21:51 < bridge> <isowner> lol
21:51 < bridge> <isowner> how
21:51 < bridge> <tombrider1337> I think you gotta open a PR on ddnet github asap
21:52 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> to make aimbot as default ddnet feature?
21:52 < bridge> <isowner> HAHAHAHAH
21:52 < bridge> <milkeeycat> @robyt3 what addressed are compared in this if statement? https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/2b1cc28933aa0121bcb9cbd16ae3e7012a85ce77/src/engine/client/client.cpp#L1367
21:52 < bridge> <tombrider1337> I mean you can try
21:52 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> oh
21:52 < bridge> <isowner> where binaries 😭
21:52 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> I'll try
21:53 < bridge> <milkeeycat> @robyt3 what addresses are compared in this if statement? https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/blob/2b1cc28933aa0121bcb9cbd16ae3e7012a85ce77/src/engine/client/client.cpp#L1367
21:53 < bridge> <isowner> on github only sources
21:53 < bridge> <robyt3> Should be the address of the server you are connected to and the address of the server info packet
21:53 < bridge> <milkeeycat> ah
21:53 < bridge> <robyt3> The `.tar.gz` files are the binary releases
21:53 < bridge> <milkeeycat> thanks
21:54 < bridge> <robyt3> Please don't unless you want to get banned
21:55 < bridge> <skibidisigma8261451> idk, I've tried to write better cursor precision, and it turned out like this
22:12 < bridge> <isowner> no, these files also contain sources
22:15 < bridge> <Ewan> yea tell him what it is lol
22:15 < bridge> <Ewan> :monkaS:
22:16 < bridge> <robyt3> guess you'll have build it yourself, read the README files
22:16 < bridge> <Ewan> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1329922211078864927/image.png?ex=678c1a13&is=678ac893&hm=ae82ccd0af3196da70b9ee3f6d1a894433aa7af97a0af6161ce0e06b4ec5b95f&
22:16 < bridge> <Ewan> Windows 32bit
22:16 < bridge> <Ewan> ddnet.org/downloads
22:16 < bridge> <Ewan> oh you're the other guy
22:17 < bridge> <Ewan> you need to obtain it first, if it's in a package manager you could use package config or cmake's find_package, alternatively you can download the source and put it in a separate folder
22:18 < bridge> <Ewan> they should have specific building/include instructions
22:18 < bridge> <Ewan> if using a local copy you might try add_subdirectory, or build it manualkly & include its /include & link its /lib
22:18 < bridge> <Ewan> if using a local copy you might try add_subdirectory, or build it manually & include its /include & link its /lib (target_include_directories/target_link_libraries)
22:19 < bridge> <Ewan> there's not one way to do it
22:20 < bridge> <Ewan> you could also try fetch_content which uses git to download it, and should expose a package for find_package if you do it right
22:23 < bridge> <Ewan> mb @ bp_unmoggable lmfao
22:36 < bridge> <cyberfrighter> what does assertion mean
22:37 < bridge> <Jupstar ✪> i assert that your condition evaluates to true
22:39 < bridge> <cyberfrighter> so assertion error is if condition is false?
22:39 < bridge> <milkeeycat> ye
22:53 < bridge> <Ewan> there are different types of assertions, whenever you see one when playing DDNet it probably means an unforeseeable error occurred but it just wants to crash elegantly
22:54 < bridge> <Ewan> but they are also used heavily in unit testing and even const logic to prevent the thing from even being compiled if those conditions are not met
22:54 < bridge> <Ewan> e.g. static_assert
22:54 < bridge> <Ewan> so there are different kinds but yeah the idea is just to ensure that everything is as expected so to speak