09:19 <+bridge> <Assa> what does m_Jumps -1 mean in terms of netcode?
09:19 <+bridge> <Assa> I understand what 0 means, but what does it mean to have a negative amount of jumps :thonk:
09:24 <+bridge> <zwelf2> likely infinite jumps
09:25 <+bridge> <Assa> I was checking now if we have a special value or something for it, but no we are just checking for -1 xD
09:35 <+bridge> <Assa> we have -2 for sv_chat messages in order to message teamless, interesting
10:09 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> that's really crazy good
10:10 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> in addition to good benchmark results, I also want to understand the code and have it maintainable — being fast is not the only quality I'd like to see
10:10 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> I think `-1` might be "only ground jump"
10:10 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> we added something like that for the tutorial
10:14 <+bridge> <Assa> ```
10:14 <+bridge> <Assa>     NetMessageEx("Sv_KillMsgTeam", "killmsgteam@netmsg.ddnet.tw", [
10:14 <+bridge> <Assa>         NetIntRange("m_Team", 0, 'MAX_CLIENTS-1'),
10:14 <+bridge> <Assa>         NetIntCustom("m_First",
10:14 <+bridge> <Assa>             values=[
10:14 <+bridge> <Assa>                 Constant(-1, "-1"),  # TODO what does -1 mean?
10:15 <+bridge> <Assa>                 Range(0, "MAX_CLIENTS-1")
10:15 <+bridge> <Assa>             ]
10:15 <+bridge> <Assa>         )
10:15 <+bridge> <Assa>     ]),
10:15 <+bridge> <Assa> ```
10:15 <+bridge> <Assa> 
10:15 <+bridge> <Assa> What does m_First in this message mean?
10:18 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> probably "nobody"?
10:20 <+bridge> <Assa> ```
10:20 <+bridge> <Assa>         // Special jump cases:
10:20 <+bridge> <Assa>         // m_Jumps == -1: A tee may only make one ground jump. Second jumped bit is always set
10:20 <+bridge> <Assa>         // m_Jumps == 0: A tee may not make a jump. Second jumped bit is always set
10:20 <+bridge> <Assa>         // m_Jumps == 1: A tee may do either a ground jump or an air jump. Second jumped bit is set after the first jump
10:20 <+bridge> <Assa>         // The second jumped bit can be overridden by special tiles so that the tee can nevertheless jump.
10:20 <+bridge> <Assa> ```
10:21 <+bridge> <Assa> 
10:21 <+bridge> <Assa> Yes, only ground jump
10:38 <+bridge> <matodor> why "—" not "-" 🤔 heinrich5991 is AI which hates AI summary 😮
10:48 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> because I'm able to use a keyboard? ^^
10:48 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> have you tried https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compose_key
10:48 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> you'll be able to see that I used emdashes before 2020
11:07 <+bridge> <manikoo> — looks better
11:08 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> no way i got the issue again!
11:08 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> this time not on my scuffed old windows 5 xp computer but in the pipeline
11:08 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> `D:\a\ddnet-insta\ddnet-insta\src\insta\engine\shared\config_variables_insta.h(167,1): error C1061: compiler limit: blocks nested too deeply [D:\a\ddnet-insta\ddnet-insta\debug\game-server-without-main.vcxproj]`
11:09 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> i reached the maximum amount of config variables??????
11:09 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> fr?
11:09 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/cpp/error-messages/compiler-errors-1/fatal-error-c1061
11:10 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> seems to be about block depth, not amount of config variables
11:10 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> ikr
11:10 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> but adding and removing config variables is what seems to have an effect
11:11 <+bridge> <heinrich5991> hmmmm
11:11 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> i also can not believe it
11:12 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> because there are other projects with I assume way more config variables
11:12 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> maybe it is because I have additional code generation with config variables in ddnet-insta
11:12 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> hah! that might actually be it!
11:35 <+bridge> <robyt3> Try to move behavior for individual config variables into helper functions so you don't have one extremely long function when macros are expanded
11:38 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> okay nice that indeed was the issue, yay this also helps me a lot for another project
11:38 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> okay now the question is how to fix it :C
11:39 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> @robyt3  yea not sure if i can avoid macros here as i need the config name and value at runtime to check which settings are set and reflect that in the vote menu
11:40 <+bridge> <Assa> I'd love to know if my descriptions are correct:
11:40 <+bridge> <Assa> 
11:40 <+bridge> <Assa> ```
11:40 <+bridge> <Assa>         NetIntCustom("m_Jumped",
11:40 <+bridge> <Assa>             values=[
11:40 <+bridge> <Assa>                 Constant(0, "0"),  # Tee has no jumps left
11:40 <+bridge> <Assa>                 Constant(1, "1"),  # Tee has ground jump
11:40 <+bridge> <Assa>                 Constant(2, "2"),  # Invalid
11:40 <+bridge> <Assa>                 Constant(3, "3"),  # Tee has ground and air jump
11:40 <+bridge> <Assa>             ]
11:40 <+bridge> <Assa>            ),
11:40 <+bridge> <Assa> ```
11:42 <+bridge> <robyt3> If possible you should avoid expanding macros into many lines though, or you exceed some limit of the number of blocks within a function
11:42 <+bridge> <robyt3> lines/blocks*
11:42 <+bridge> <jxsl13> does not disprove you being AI from birth 🔥
11:43 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> @robyt3 yea i realized that too now :c i mean linux compilers do support it -,-
11:43 <+bridge> <Assa> aren't we all some kind of biological neural networks?
11:43 <+bridge> <Assa> I guess we are bit more, since we have extensions to be self-sustaining and self-replicating
11:44 <+bridge> <Assa> oh, humans are gray goo
11:44 <+bridge> <jxsl13> hütte brennt, but i am sitting here waiting for cd pipeline to finish building 👀🔥
11:46 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> @essigautomat here is a 0.7 jumped value gif generated with code so it should be quite correct https://chillerdragon.github.io/teeworlds-protocol/07/snap_items.html#obj_character_core
11:47 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> it does contain the value 2 which you marked as invalid 🤔
11:56 <+bridge> <Assa> then my marking is invalid
11:57 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> I doubt it changed in 0.7 but better double check that
11:57 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> Im only 90% sure it’s the same
11:57 <+bridge> <Assa> can I just use your description?
11:57 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> Sure
12:01 <+bridge> <Assa> I think the 2 does not mean, that an air jump was performed necessarily
12:01 <+bridge> <Assa> no I mean the 3
12:02 <+bridge> <Assa> it just means that no air jump can be performed and a jump happened, this can also happen if m_Jumped == -1
12:02 <+bridge> <Assa> it just means that no air jump can be performed and a jump happened, this can also happen if m_Jumps == -1 as established above
12:03 <+bridge> <Assa> ```
12:03 <+bridge> <Assa>         NetIntCustom("m_Jumped",
12:03 <+bridge> <Assa>             values=[
12:03 <+bridge> <Assa>                 Constant(0, "0"),  # Tee has not jumped on current input and can do air jumps
12:03 <+bridge> <Assa>                 Constant(1, "1"),  # Tee made a jump on current input and can do air jumps
12:03 <+bridge> <Assa>                 Constant(2, "2"),  # Tee has not jumped on current input but can't do air jumps
12:03 <+bridge> <Assa>                 Constant(3, "3"),  # Tee made a jump on current input and can't do air jumps anymore
12:03 <+bridge> <Assa>             ]
12:03 <+bridge> <Assa>         ),
12:03 <+bridge> <Assa> ```
12:03 <+bridge> <Assa> :justatest:
12:05 <+bridge> <Assa> that gif is very helpful, thanks a lot
12:06 <+bridge> <Assa> if this is correct, than walking off an edge without jumping would still lead to 0
12:06 <+bridge> <zyn0kz> bro
12:06 <+bridge> <zyn0kz> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1503699959529345137/1.jpg?ex=6a044d37&is=6a02fbb7&hm=9b125e23b7d90cb4da6b0a9f1dc15cdfe6edefc3d14ae6afdc9608e9bf44bf39&
12:06 <+bridge> <zyn0kz> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1503699959936061580/2.jpg?ex=6a044d37&is=6a02fbb7&hm=3b8f34678537f3432cb82f42bcaa38b354a97a1e2178c6532521698be89f99e0&
12:06 <+bridge> <zyn0kz> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1503699960259149904/3.jpg?ex=6a044d37&is=6a02fbb7&hm=f5bba56765c78c709a8b09063cce132998356812e34c920a96d55ead55817dc2&
12:06 <+bridge> <zyn0kz> https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/293493549758939136/1503699960695099422/4.jpg?ex=6a044d38&is=6a02fbb8&hm=d38d8112ccdece7be0dbba07b4784e0468810636f6d0255bc83eb09df5d82a8e&
12:06 <+bridge> <Assa> @nikosaccount
12:06 <+bridge> <Assa> @Discord Mod
12:07 <+bridge> <Assa> sorry Ed, was too fast
12:49 <+bridge> <art0007i> anyone know why my mouse wheel is not switching my weapon when I build from source? the build from website works correctly, but when I compile it myself it's broken. scrolling inside console and server browser works, but in-game it does not switch my weapons. i just did `git clone https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet;cd ddnet;mkdir build; cd build; cmake ..;make -j16;./DDNet`  and this already has broken mouse wheel
12:51 <+bridge> <manikoo> do you have +nextweapon and +prevweapon bibded to mousewheelup and down
12:52 <+bridge> <melon> Update your systems sdl
12:55 <+bridge> <Assa> what does m_JumpedTotal == -1 mean?
12:55 <+bridge> <Assa> # New data fields for jump display, freeze bar and ninja bar
12:55 <+bridge> <Assa>         # Default values indicate that these values should not be used
12:55 <+bridge> <Assa>         NetIntRange("m_JumpedTotal", -1, 255, default=-1),
12:55 <+bridge> <Assa> ```
12:55 <+bridge> <Assa>         # New data fields for jump display, freeze bar and ninja bar
12:55 <+bridge> <Assa>         # Default values indicate that these values should not be used
12:55 <+bridge> <Assa>         NetIntRange("m_JumpedTotal", -1, 255, default=-1),
12:56 <+bridge> <Assa> ```
12:56 <+bridge> <Assa> -1 just means off, or infinite, or ground only? hmm
12:57 <+bridge> <Assa> ```
12:57 <+bridge> <Assa>     // We only accept the display information when it is received, which means it is not -1 in each case.
12:57 <+bridge> <Assa>     if(pObjDDNet->m_JumpedTotal != -1)
12:57 <+bridge> <Assa> ```
12:58 <+bridge> <Assa> so -1 means "no display information"
13:01 <+bridge> <art0007i> hmm it's latest version from arch repos, but still bugged, but if it's just sdl bug then I'll look into what version the website builds are using
13:02 <+bridge> <Assa> I had the same issue, opened a ticket and this will be fixed in the next release. For now downgrade sdl-compat to x.x.66 instead of x.x.68
13:03 <+bridge> <Assa> I had the same issue, opened a ticket and this will be fixed in the next release. For now downgrade sdl2-compat to x.x.66 instead of x.x.68
13:03 <+bridge> <Assa> @art0007i see #12140
13:03 <+bridge> <DDNet> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/issues/12140
13:09 <+bridge> <Assa> I had the same issue, opened a ticket and this will be fixed in the next release of sdl2-compat. For now downgrade sdl2-compat to x.x.66 instead of x.x.68
13:46 <+bridge> <Assa> this is my last TODO:
13:46 <+bridge> <Assa> 
13:46 <+bridge> <Assa> ```
13:46 <+bridge> <Assa> 
13:46 <+bridge> <Assa>     NetMessageEx("Sv_YourVote", "yourvote@netmsg.ddnet.org", [
13:46 <+bridge> <Assa>         NetIntRange("m_Voted", -1, 1),  # TODO what do these values mean? use NetIntCustom
13:46 <+bridge> <Assa>     ]),
13:46 <+bridge> <Assa> ```
13:47 <+bridge> <Assa> no clue what these values mean
13:51 <+bridge> <Assa> ```
13:52 <+bridge> <Assa>     CVoting *pSelf = (CVoting *)pUserData;
13:52 <+bridge> <Assa>     if(str_comp_nocase(pResult->GetString(0), "yes") == 0)
13:52 <+bridge> <Assa>         pSelf->Vote(1);
13:52 <+bridge> <Assa>     else if(str_comp_nocase(pResult->GetString(0), "no") == 0)
13:52 <+bridge> <Assa>         pSelf->Vote(-1);
13:52 <+bridge> <Assa> ```
13:52 <+bridge> <Assa> 
13:52 <+bridge> <Assa> What does Vote(0) mean? I can send it over the network
13:53 <+bridge> <Assa> ```C++
13:53 <+bridge> <Assa>     if(!pMsg->m_Vote)
13:53 <+bridge> <Assa>         return;
13:53 <+bridge> <Assa> ```
13:53 <+bridge> <Assa> 
13:53 <+bridge> <Assa> so I found an unused netmessage
13:54 <+bridge> <Assa> except that this triggers the spam protection
14:05 <+bridge> <Assa> this syntax is invalid in current python: `C_HEADER_INCLUDE_PATTERN = re.compile(fr"#include\s+<({"|".join(C_HEADER_SET)})\.h>")`
14:10 < Bamcane> Have we fixed the issue of snapshot building?
14:22 <+bridge> <quomy_> :brownbear:
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14:28 <+bridge> <bamcane_tee237> D:
14:29 <+bridge> <bamcane_tee237> I'm going to close my IRC client now as I can connected on my discord.
14:29 <+bridge> <bamcane_tee237> also is that spam?
14:32 <+bridge> <manikoo> @Discord Mod
14:32 <+bridge> <manikoo> just for sure
14:32 <+bridge> <learath2> OMG who is this woman. What did she do to whoever she did it to
14:33 <+bridge> <byfox> That's right, the code is partially unreadable, I plan to rewrite it in the future (completely by hand) :)
15:36 <+bridge> <teero777> https://github.com/david-vanderson/dvui
15:36 <+bridge> <teero777> this looks quite nice
15:36 <+bridge> <cartmanbrooffical> https://github.com/mikke89/RmlUi
15:38 <+bridge> <teero777> i already have that one starred
15:39 <+bridge> <teero777> and sadly it does not have c bindings
15:40 <+bridge> <melon> you code in zig teeto? Cool!
15:41 <+bridge> <melon> Probably the language I'm least proficient in by far, even tho I tried reading the docs multiple times
15:42 <+bridge> <teero777> i don't have any projects in zig yet xd
15:43 <+bridge> <melon> I tried to code a conways game of life in zig, Gave up after around an hour :kek:
15:43 <+bridge> <teero777> i haven't found a real use for it yet
15:43 <+bridge> <teero777> and most things i work on are in c or cpp
15:50 <+bridge> <teero777> i have actually searched far and wide for c bindings for rmlui since i wanted to use it for frametee, but none exist
15:50 <+bridge> <teero777> i guess i should create my own
15:52 <+bridge> <melon> @morpheus_tyler
15:52 <+bridge> <teero777> okay i have motivation I'll do it and rewrite the whole ui of framtee
15:52 <+bridge> <teero777> it looked ugly anyways
15:52 <+bridge> <teero777> but it's like 4k loc :/
15:52 <+bridge> <melon> @morpheus_tyler done :)
15:52 <+bridge> <Tyrone> yo
15:53 <+bridge> <teero777> yo wheres your commit
15:53 <+bridge> <Tyrone> i made a commit years ago
15:53 <+bridge> <Tyrone> i just re-joined the dx
15:53 <+bridge> <Tyrone> i just re-joined the dc
15:53 <+bridge> <teero777> xddd
15:54 <+bridge> <teero777> @blaiszephyr the issue is if i make bindings in their own repo then ppl will expect me to maintain them
15:54 <+bridge> <teero777> @blaiszephyr the issue is if i make bindings, ppl will expect me to maintain them
15:56 <+bridge> <melon> Hmm true
15:56 <+bridge> <ryozuki> hi
15:59 <+bridge> <melon> I would just slap a huge "Dis for me, if not work for u, u fix" disclaimer on it and not care :kekw:
15:59 <+bridge> <melon> Good morning!
15:59 <+bridge> <ryozuki> how is ur new life as admin
15:59 <+bridge> <cyberfrighter> is ddnet more gpu or cpu intensive
15:59 <+bridge> <ryozuki> cpu
15:59 <+bridge> <melon> Good good, lots of DM requests asking me when accounts
15:59 <+bridge> <melon> :justatest:
15:59 <+bridge> <ryozuki> :justatest:
16:00 <+bridge> <cyberfrighter> oh
16:00 <+bridge> <cyberfrighter> i have a friend with a 5090 (idk the cpu though) but he cant get >1000 fps
16:00 <+bridge> <ryozuki> on my 7900x3d 5.6ghz + RTX 5080 my gpu is sleeping
16:00 <+bridge> <teero777> cpu, unless your fps are uncapped
16:00 <+bridge> <ryozuki> at 10k fps
16:00 <+bridge> <ryozuki> kek timeouted
16:01 <+bridge> <ryozuki> @blaiszephyr save the man
16:02 <+bridge> <teero777> melon did not save me
16:03 <+bridge> <teero777> either he doesn't have any drivers installed or he plugged his screen into his motherboard
16:03 <+bridge> <teero777> even i with a 5€ cpu and a rx570 get around 5k fos
16:03 <+bridge> <teero777> even i with a 5€ cpu and a rx570 get around 5k fps
16:08 <+bridge> <Assa> sounds like he is either using opengl 1, has a bad OS, bad driver or is still working with a Pentium processor
16:08 <+bridge> <Assa> oh yes, I keep forgetting that people are that stupid, my drummer did the same
16:09 <+bridge> <teero777> you have a drummer to do the badumz every time you tell a joke?
16:10 <+bridge> <Assa> actually yes
16:10 <+bridge> <teero777> i can't even delete that msg since i will be timeouted again
16:12 <+bridge> <Assa> got timeouted, because he called me a bad bot
16:12 <+bridge> <DDNet> :(
16:13 <+bridge> <teero777> bad bot
16:13 <+bridge> <DDNet> :C
16:14 <+bridge> <teero777> @teero777 does pinging myself result in a timeout?
16:15 <+bridge> <Assa> Now I only need to get the bot to delete it's own messages, so it timeouts itself
16:20 <+bridge> <Assa> my pipeline failed weirdly oO
16:20 <+bridge> <Assa> 
16:20 <+bridge> <Assa> https://github.com/ddnet/ddnet/actions/runs/25738177277/job/75580812197?pr=12106
16:21 <+bridge> <Assa> like not only one job, multiple, but not all
16:24 <+bridge> <teero777> bad dev
16:24 <+bridge> <Assa> :C
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17:15 <+bridge> <inv41idu53rn4m3> wtf
17:16 <+bridge> <virtue4> @Discord Mod
17:16 <+bridge> <aok835> https://tenor.com/view/mods-discord-mod-moderator-moderation-clash-of-clans-gif-24080525
17:27 <+bridge> <melon> I hate discord on phone
17:35 <+bridge> <virtue4> why you just don’t add automod for that message
17:35 <+bridge> <virtue4> because hes sending this everyday
20:24 <+bridge> <kebscs> why are irc logs from 05-03 to 05-11 missing?
20:33 <+bridge> <learath2> @0xdeen are those gone forever or is it a sync issue?
20:46 <+bridge> <learath2> (I or heinrich should have logs from those dates to patch it up if they are gone)
20:50 <+bridge> <kebscs> I would say it's a bad thing if someone can just patch up logs
20:51 <+bridge> <kebscs> they're logs for a reason, kinda defeats the purpose if anyone can just edit them
20:59 <+bridge> <aegisub> can just disclose in the filename that those logs were uploaded by some other person
21:08 <+bridge> <kebscs> maybe, and pray that ppl with the access disclose it
21:08 <+bridge> <kebscs> maybe, and pray that ppl with the access disclose it when they make edits
21:08 <+bridge> <murpi> I still don't get why we have public chat logs in the first place
21:08 <+bridge> <kebscs> same, and theyre mirrored over random repos on github too
21:09 <+bridge> <kebscs> but weird they can just disappear when things on discord are happening
21:10 <+bridge> <murpi> I think deen just halted this service after we complained about not being able to edit those logs, specifically to remove the dox message that fokkonaut and others, including me, were complaining about
21:11 <+bridge> <murpi> These logs shouldn't exist in the first place anyway
21:11 <+bridge> <kebscs> wth
21:11 <+bridge> <kebscs> have not seen those
21:11 <+bridge> <murpi> What exactly? The complaints or the scam/doxxing messages?
21:25 <+bridge> <kebscs> Both
21:27 <+bridge> <melon> > Hi Guys! It's xxxxxxxx xxxxx! Just thought I'd leave my number here in case you're lonely ;) .
21:27 <+bridge> <melon> 
21:27 <+bridge> <melon> Followed by their private info of family phone number, where they live etc pp
21:27 <+bridge> <DDNet> Hellou :3
21:27 <+bridge> <melon> Since they're sent over Irc, and you can't delete messages there, it sounds sane to just disable the logging for now.
21:27 <+bridge> <melon> > Hi Guys! It's xxxxxxxx xxxxx! Just thought I'd leave my number here in case you're lonely ;) .
21:27 <+bridge> <melon> 
21:27 <+bridge> <melon> Followed by their private info of family, phone number, where they live etc pp
21:28 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> I feel a bit bad
21:28 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> Because I told Heinrich 200 times there is no spam on irc and he should unmute it and then this happened
21:29 <+bridge> <melon> 😄
21:31 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> Now that I am banned on irc I don’t even profit much from it being unmuted
21:31 <+bridge> <chillerdragon> Time to switch to selfhosted irc server where no spammers will ever arrive because it’s too niche
22:27 <+bridge> <manikoo> all good chiller
22:27 <+bridge> <manikoo> not your fault
22:31 <+bridge> <manikoo> you cannot say that a human who gave one free will is a culprit of murder done by human who used this free will in wrong way
22:31 <+bridge> <manikoo> you cannot say that a human who gave one free will is a culprit of murder done by other human who used this free will in wrong way
22:55 <+bridge> <chairn> we also have sensors which allows us to experience the world. Moreover, memory combined with chemistry (humor-like) makes also some weird interaction with the neurons (euphoria, depression, etc.)
22:57 <+bridge> <chairn> archived on web archive 😉
23:01 <+bridge> <chairn> to fill in the blanks in discord app where we only have heinrich saying he banned fokko
23:04 <+bridge> <cellegenrih> Since when he banned him?
23:08 <+bridge> <chairn> yesterday i think ?
23:14 <+bridge> <Assa> we also experienced natural evolutionary pressure, now we are experiencing self made pressure
23:15 <+bridge> <chairn> 1st one is not as individual though
23:15 <+bridge> <Assa> I never meant as individual, I mean as human society
23:16 <+bridge> <Assa> we are filtering - in a sense - ourselfs
23:16 <+bridge> <chairn> but 1st comment was on neural network, thus necessarily about individual
23:17 <+bridge> <Assa> currently we are "filtering" for woman who can get children the latest in their life.
23:17 <+bridge> <Assa> 
23:17 <+bridge> <Assa> My point is, that we are machines who are also forced to adapt to our environments, and this for millenia, so highly advanced biological neural networks
23:20 <+bridge> <Assa> currently we are "filtering" for woman who can get children the latest in their life.
23:20 <+bridge> <Assa> 
23:20 <+bridge> <Assa> My point is, that we are machines who are also forced to adapt to our environments, and this for millennia, so highly advanced self replicating adaptive biological neural networks