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had this becasuse i forgot something

ill add time cps later when i can

ik bot

time cps

hey some tester know when are test servers updated?? when is this gonna be in test server?

or is it manual?

Might already be there, just not on the map options rn

Try changing to another map first idk

Otherwise wait a couple hours

this setup isnt 100%

very hard to reach

you can easily skip some parts. you should make it freeze on spots where you dont needto be on ground yk

need to fix spacing on alot of the parts. some parts is super hard to reach and some parts are very easy. try to balance it

i did it 100% of times I'll check it

where exactly? dont understand this screenshot

rocket to the platform

it's too close?

i saw that earlier I'm gonna change it

Hi, I tested your map and this is what I found

1. You can save the laser here.
2. Here you can go up with sg and skip the whole map
3. It's the same here but with the help of a rocket
4. Skip
5. You can skip the start, pick up the weapons and return to the start with the weapons
6. There's an inconvenient setup for shotguns here, you can make them more convenient.
7. skip laser
8. skip
9. skip
10. where finish in design?
11. design bug
12. where start line in design
13. Are you also overusing using arrow I think the map has potential and I hope you will fix everything and the map will be ready for release.

dayum

\:D

gonna check later but start and finish line was added here no??

here sry

ah rly?

ok sry

I downloaded the first version of the map

my bad

there are many map escape or skips, maybe find on your own and fix it

maybe its not updated OR i gott asay sry cuz i didnt do ctrl+s before sending, maybe im an idiot, anyways ill check it :D

dw

I've been testing this on my server

well if they arent fixed is cuz i didnt find them ...

try to find skip in your own map xD you can test yours

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play your map also alot and move stuff around to improve the flow

and it will be a solid map :D

fixed the spacing after the grenade. all the skips mentioned above im now pretty sure are impossible. covered with freeze all potential places to skip fixed the setup (i gave it a looot of trys now and always works. before only worked if you were in wall early, if not it could not work) made the shotgun more comfortable. and rest of stuff mentioned. i hope im not missing anything

nice :). now play the map 100 times

im pretty sure i did more than 100 runs

segmented tho, only some full runs

super will try the map later :D

;3

IDK, maybe I do somethingwrong. I can't do this part

You have to keep up the speed when you hit yourself with the laser

That is, to go through this part without stopping

Ohhh, thanks, this map is so confusing . Maybe author should put some markers or something

Don't markered in design

I'm pretty sure that it's not needed to mark those but i could and also add a marker to keep speed at shotgun part

it's not intended to be confusing but intended to make u learn the parts, since it's a speedrun map

so yeah maybe a couple markers it's ok

idk this jump feels unsmooth

if ytou want to keep speed you hsould have the platform a bit longer. you almost have 0 time to jump =(

this swing seems weird. much downspeed and hard to do the laser after

the last rocket thats shown in image. you go over the platform so you need to stop or take less speed to keep the flow. the platform should be futher away

this is still not 100% but its better

maybe delete a bit of platform. hard to hit the sg

idk if I do it wrong but when I fall I cant reach the hook

to much downspeed

this last thing is a bit boring

you have improved alot since last playtest nice job

enjoyed playing this

making it longer means u can jump late . that distance it's actually setting u up so u can do the shotguns with some space to breathe.

make it longer and add a arrow where you should jump

just feelt like you had 0 time to do it

i mean i deleted a lot to make sure u couldn't fuck up but i should be able to add a couple blocks without fuckin up, i left margin

i feel it good idk

maybe just me :D

i would like to see a clip of it not working so i can see what's the problem i don't understand why it won't work sometimes :(

ill send clip tmrw

sometime you have less downspeed idk

I think it depends on downspeed

so if you move it down 1 tile ig its 100%

but downspeed is set upped by the ceiling

yeah but Ig its a chance it succeed with same downspeed then.

i made the last swing like that bc it felt weird to go from some complex gameplay to a finish line so its like a transition. if no one feels it like that as well I'll change it, it just was the first sense i had

prob u doing last part so good u get too much speed 😜

I'll check it as well

can keep grenade here

i think you should indicate this two

move this block a bit right ig

you can refill jump here and avoid last sg

1. Added markers for the arrows

(Pro gaming's suggestions vv)

2. added a marker to keep speed and expanded the platform
3. Made this 5 blocks or so bigger to give more space
4. now it should be 100% (please be

)

5. removed blocks in plat to give more space to sg
6. moved unfreeze up and removed some hooks to make it more comfortable

(Nova's vv)

7. cant keep grenade anymore
8. moved 1 block
9. cant refill jump anymore
10. indicated suggested places

Will try later👍

tweaks

thought you needed to hold D there

cus the arrow

I still dont get this jump

except that map feelt smoother

still think that rocket jump it to short. you hit the wall and loose momentum wich and break flow

it is pointing left tho?

didnt change. can you send a clip of how you do it?

sometimes the rocket gives you lil speed sometimes a lot. i tried to fit a mid point

you send clip

it gives the same no?

well maybe it's my skill issue. I'll space it more

alr make the hookable less then cus if you hook to high its not possible

wdym not possible

idk can try again then

hooking high actually gives you the opportunity to laser top or bottom, you choose :D

imma reduce from the bottom tho, if you hook late you touch freeze

ohhhh looks like i was hooking too high

moved the grenade shoot away, and moved the hooks so you need to hook lower https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/1512433421358469301/1512965647762456576 SCREENSHOT 2 deleted some hooks at the bottom https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/1512433421358469301/1512965399661117580 fixed a skip at start (there wasnt freeze there for some reason) SCREENSHOT 1

Added decoration Small fixes Optimized file

you could skip the shotgun, added freeze fixed automapper (it was overlapping blocks)

(sorry for not doing all in 1 upload)

made end harder other small fixes

can skip shield for up

possible skip

another way

i think its alredy impossible to stand where you are and even more impossible to reach that second block.

where second block?

this?

same thing

i don't think u can reach

I've been testing it and it's possible

xDDDD

sure? wow

2-3 sg

need

ahh sg makes sense

i didn't have that in mind haha

okey

Sometimes I didn't take the rocket

where are you hooking?

bind

m

should work then.... weird

you miss it passing below it?

ye

i think i can move it down 1 booboo

block

xd

I'm trying to go through your map without practice, and maybe I'll figure out the flaws xD

hard map, once you learn it its still challenging but worth to keep speedrunning it :D (imo)

4h on map xD

Good map

Flow looks nice

nice run! only failed 1 shotgun almost perfect :P

im glad u liked it

well i tried with and without bind and i always take it... i just removed the bottom hook since it may make you not take it. so you should hook a bit higher

• changed tree at start (last looked weirdd)

• removed hook and a block, so you hook higher (pretty sure you cant use bind anymore)

• moved 1 block down since it was very little margin for error

• fixed skip

• fixed the rest of mentioned stuff

skip (the yellow zone can do autojump + laser and fall

^ + added a time cp i missed and added a flag in all time cps

can do a swing and slide in edge of freeze and pass part without using sg and with dj

moved up and added indicator other small fixes

probably not ready but i would love it in 22 june (its my bd :D)

but i guess its too early

apart from some skips, is it ready? like gameplay-wise?

setup in this part doesn't feel very smooth

In the last part you don't need laser, only to save some second. Add some freeze in the bottom

yet? damn

You mean 2027?

no, that's why i said too early

i mean if it takes so long (i hope not) it could be 22 june 2027

-# cant wait to use a

on patica

cant wait to see this released on 21 june

^

1. Maybe add some freeze here , because if you jump too early it's fail ( not a big drawback since it's a start but I think this would be better )
2. Design bug
3. Not really sure if it's a bug or meant to be a freeze here

1. sure, if it makes it clearer its better since a lot of people get confused here
2. its meant but yeah it looks a bit weird ill change it

^^

full white markers on a dark map like that makes them really hard on the eyes

a lot of those structures make the map hard to read, like here at first i tried to go from below because of how the parts are shaped

and map is filled with those structures

i dont think these are needed at all

pretty much all of those winter decorations look out of place and dont match the vibe of the map at all

i would say only exception are those red lights which i think look somewhat okay

the contrast between hookables and the background isnt big enough imo, the tiles often blend with the background and look visually smaller

the background itself has a lot of color banding on it, you might not be able to completely get rid of it due to how quads work but you can always reduce it a lot

it doesnt look like a smooth gradient but rather a bunch of rectangles

and that fog animation in the background is also really odd

it doesnt look very "natural"

its clearly visible that its a big quad that spins in weird directions

maybe if you added a bunch of smaller ones like that and put them on different delays that could help

but i dont know if animation like that would work at all, you would have to experiment a bit

and in general gameplay wise besides being unintuitive i dont see much reason for this to be so faily

newgenflowslop

you can sometimes fall off here and land somewhere on the edge missing the unfreeze

while its maybe not a hard swing in certain cases you get the laser but miss the unfreeze

thats why you have a sign telling you where to go -.-

i like it

yeah but i didnt spot it at first its not that easy to see when you are going fast and doing the part for the first time

unhook you mean

?

yeah unhooks

then if you tell me to make them not as white you wont notice

howww okey ill expand but wow

arrows arent the only way to point players towards the correct direction/solution

you can do so with a proper map layout

i really like the unorganized structure

i thought of a map you would need to read carefully first and then play it in a run as a speedrun

its not AS unintuitive, all is practicly closed with freeze

not as long as to make it with teles, if it had checkpoints, they will be like 3 in the whole map since you need to do almost everything in 1 flow

and about deco, its just a nightly winter

sounds fine imo, i think it would make the map more approachable

but those exact structures are what make the map harder to read while not providing any gameplay benefit

design benefit is also small if any in this case

ill think of it

i also didnt want the tee falling to the void if failed

thats other reason i did it

mmmm idk, too easy then

the tiles have a rather metallic and smooth look and there arent any "nature" type decorations besides these when it comes to foreground

it all really seems out of place

but the parts are the same its just that you dont have to restart

i dont see how it makes the map too easy

you can prevent that in other ways without adding these big structures, some of them are still quite far from the "main gameplay area" so the tee may still fall for quite a while

if its the blocks i can change them ig

mmm okey

yeah changing blocks might also be a good solution for that, again seeing for example a tree grow out of a tile like that and having snow on it while tiles dont is quite an odd look

mmm i guess ur right

ill try to fix it and in the worse case ill just redo deco

• made arrows a bit gray (img 1)
• removed a lot of useless structures
• removed most of the doodads
• changed the tileset to a stone one so all blends in better (img 2)
• (I have no idea on how to fix the color banding, i need help with that)
• fixed the fog animation
• added checkpoints. flags now mark where they are (img 3)
• fixed https://discordapp.com/channels/252358080522747904/1512433421358469301/1518652254956159007

Now with cp's it probably goes to a solo 2*

optimized ^

kinda fixed color banding

some gameplay improvements optimization

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there are still confusing structures everywhere, and also you removed too many structures so you added a skip at the end. i don't really see a benefit in having all these platforms that don't indicate anything everywhere, sometimes it takes some time to find the path because there are a lot of random things. also making it this confusing might add some cheats that are hard to find.

also i agree with souly that this map shouldn't be that faily, but please plan this ahead. now the map is a bit messy with some random fails. even with the tp's the map doesn't look that accessible, because it's so messy. i guess a simpler mapping style would help a lot to make this gameplay more popular.

other than what i mentioned, i suggest to change the following issues:

besides that u also deleted the credits of the assets, please add them back.

$waiting

oh forgot to mention, hiding things inbetween the teleporters is not a good style, but yeah ig i understood how it became like this

for me the setup at the beginning and the setup at the beginning of cp 5 were rather boring, it's not really a form of skill expression so it's not rewarding to do these moves

Hey! thanks for the test :)

i removed the useless structures because i was told to... but at the same time you are saying that there are uselessa structures so i dont know what the conclussion on that is. about cheats, apart from the one you showed i dont think there cant be that much i mean, if you go through a not desired path, theres always freeze or something. (the one you found was one that was alredy pointed out and i solved it adding a structure but i deleted it in last update thats why).

Now its not really faily, if you follow the path it wont. it will be in some unfortunate places but now its not faily in the main parts. i would like to know where the map isnt accesible because i think i covered most of the failable freezes.

The "messy" style is intentional, i just wanted to make something different, while at the same time it keeps a ordered style i dont think thats an issue.

Also, whats the issue in the last picture? i dont understand

CHANGES

• solved the issues mentioned in the screenshots
• took back credits (twmap took them out).
• removed freeze inside teleport

Ill continue the changes once i understand the issues mentioned above

it's not ordered, it's messy and confusing, everywhere there are structures that don't indicate gameplay relevant parts, many contrasts for the eyes that don't matter at all and u cant even solve the issue with entities. if it takes significantly more time to understand the part just because it was meant to be messy, i don't see the advantage. it might be a form of creativity, but in my opinion (and some others on the server agreed) the map would be much better if it was clean. try to be creative in a way that improves the gameplay instead of making it confusing for no reason

arguing that there can't be "that much" is bad, because you can hardly be sure if there is something with such a messy style and one skip can be gamebreaking already

please fix this properly, maybe it's still possible to fall through, you can skip death tiles so make a box of unhookables around them or something (for it's okay if everything is invisible). it would be a lot of work to test this and making sure it's not cheatable like this (or just put the box anywhere else)

or - if you find a way - just remove the box entirely so the teleports are just inside the map (cleaner/better mapping style)

Yeah there is no point for that tele box.

how should i then give dj back, remove or give weaps?

mmmm okay... i guess. i really liked it tho but if no one agrees its better to change it :(. Ill try to keep the style while removing structures and making the existing ones connect so its a more closed strucuture. would that be okay?

okay i understand now

just inside the map on the to tp's should work right?

would look bad to have a random shield when in a perfect run the gun would have been removed alr for example

or worse a second grenade when you alredy have it

thats why i made it like that

• Removed most of the useless structures and formations.
• Connected some structures so its more clear and map is more closed https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1512433421358469301/1525218136331386981
• Put unhook and killtile on top to make sure its not skipable https://discord.com/channels/252358080522747904/1512433421358469301/1525221025686491256

the file size is crazyy

also crazy is how the map went from being dogshit to playable by just adding teles

:(

tele version is in christimas event

I bonk this unhook quite often, and conveniently that's the only place with a death pit, would be nice to cover it with tele

this doesn't look intended, not sure tho, you can get dj here and skip last move

oke thx :)

this swing feels wrong for some reason, it's hard to get it just right, I either bonk the ceiling or miss the shotgun or shotgun doesn't reach me. I'm sure you can make it more reliable, you can try shifting walls a bit etc.

you could also move the kill box to the top right corner of the map, then it's unreachable and you can even remove kills around it

I'd like it as far away from the map as possible

i didnt do it because that would make speedup layer big asf

if it's mostly empty it doesn't really matter

compression will turn it into nothing

this seems to only be a problem if u do a corner shotgun, so I guess you could just make it impossible

i never tried to do it with corner shotgun because its hard for me but id prefer to make both work or force the corner one idk. ill check it out

imo wall is better, corner is basically just aiming at the right angle, which is quite boring from gameplay perspective

you could kill 2 birds with 1 stone

i literally did that before seeing message xdd

added title. fixed issues mentioned above. closed some skips and places mentioned in server.

(sorry for not having screenshots, windows trolling)

+can you please change map name to "Patica" with uppercase instead of "patica"? ty ;3

(just the map again because we dont have it on test rn)

added funky invisible tile so the bot stops trolling me

this freeze tile shouldn't be here

oopsie

^^

wall shotgun is now too precise with this additional freeze, it wasn't there before

and i realized i "fixed" this by moving away the blocks without realizing i have to shotgun it to do the part

😭.

okay, now (i think

)

corners

detail

can you also get rid of the tele box completely? I feel like it's not needed and it's annoying that it's flashing on your screen every time you teleport, you could just place shields and weapons inside tubes

and I think that's all

i did but looked weird... I'll try again

yeah so it happens that you can move for 1 tick before you get freezed in the teleport. that with the box didnt happen but now it can lead to weird behaviours

thats another of the reasons i had the boxes, to freeze the tee

wouldn't this be solvable with some invisible speeder?

you can also jump in that tick but i think you cant do anything with that

if you put there a weak speeder pointing at the wall that should work?

imma go eat ill fix later

ye but may look weird ill see later gtg

okay

removed all boxes and added speedups to funel tps.

Put in HD all deco but logo

And fixed the corner

sry bot i generated a entity bug xd

sry bot x2

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bot give me the ok pls

aaaaa

test!

removed 3rd shotgun

last upd

cmon bot its the last one :D

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"deen is doing some major restructuring in the background, so the website can be down from time to time"

yuh

im giving it some mins

pls bot :D

good bot?

bad bot

Sowwy :c

!!

web loaded

this sends u back to spawn so why make it tp(my rectangle was a bit too big but u get my point)

you can bot

YES

its for cp 1

but the left side u cant reach

from cp 1

but it would look weird

so why not

i guess

i dont think it would but ur choice

we waited for 30 mins to upload this version so ill keep it lol

okay

lineup is broken if u walk off instead of jumping

because you arent supposed to be there

some freeze

yayy

<t:1786802400:F> does that work for you or do you want it later?

Could I do <t:1786719600:F>? I don't know if Ill be online the 15th and wanna be in the release.

If it has to be later, lets do then <t:1788361200:F>.

(I know it's a big gap but from 16 to 31 i will be pretty offline :/)

ty

k

thanks :)

Good mapper once again

^^

why does it increase so much in size bro

ou shi

it moved to release candidate again :c

idk if i should @ you or snail

nice

updates have been made, last version is the correct one

thx, updated

2 estrellas?

me parecia 3 cuando lo jugaba

tiene cps

Cooked pork

Yo soy nub igual xd

si lo practicas puedes

:3

When is the MEC scholarship opening up again?

go see if raul knows, he knows the admins

Good map good mapper approved

Beca MEC :0

Good map

Either I'm doing something wrong, or that spot is kinda broken. I die there like 80% of the time, so it feels impossible to speedrun the map

it is broken, my theory is that this is because you're hitting wall at high speed and at an angle. Collision gets detected and then the game needs to put you back on the wall, and this interpolation probably has a slight inaccuracy, which affects where you unfreeze. This is fixable with deep, but then deep jump affects the next unfreeze and makes the wall shotgun pretty much impossible. I'll try to find some working setup and if nothing works I have a backup idea

ok deep jump affected next unfreeze because I was stacking undeep and unfreeze

you can fix it like this, no need to mark in design

that sounds good. Tho im not able now. Could you upload it??

part fix, doesn't affect tas ranks, no idea how to optimize it now

idk why i didnt come up with separating them but thats perfect

"consistency" fix

"doesnt affect tas ranks"

tas wouldnt be reachable by normal players if it vreaks the tas

done

or should be

Vreaks

Edited map from

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):

/twmap-edit options:--remove-everything-unused --shrink-tiles-layers

You can use also use --help to view all the available commands but to optimize a map it's usually just these two. :)

$english

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yeah you were right

i dont recall that happening in testing though, did the map just randomly break or smth

I guess no one was speedrunning in testing and it went undetected, it only happened with early jump at high speed

nah, it happened when going extremly fast, and we didnt try that cuz it was a setup but apparently it can add to it